Danny Jones Interview with DC Ammon Hillman

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Sources mentioned

• Swete’s septuagint in greek, 1930
• Nestle’s new testament in greek, 1904
• Nicander’s Alexipharmaca - Theriaca et Alexipharmaca by Nicander of Colophon
• Philodemus of Gadara - On Theriac to Piso (De Theriaca ad Piso)
  • See Robert Leigh’s 2013 thesis “On Theriac to Piso, Attributed to Galen”
• Galen - Galeni opera omnia / vol. 14, 1827, by Kuhn
• Philumenus (Φιλούμενος) - On Deadly Poisons (Περὶ Θανάσιμων Φαρμάκων)
  • Original Greek (not available), try:
    • Oribasius, a 4th-century Byzantine physician, preserved parts of Philumenus' writings in his medical compendia. Oribasius quotes Philumenus on venomous bites, particularly concerning snakes and other poisonous animals
    • Aëtius, another Byzantine physician, also includes Philumenus' insights in his Tetrabiblos, a medical encyclopedia.
  • De venenatis animalibus eorumque remediis - Medieval latin translation
• De Ortu Waluuanii - 12th century arthurian text with Medean recipe for boiling a pimpled redheaded boy to make communion blood.
• Corpus Medicorum Graecorum

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Interview

all right Mr Ammon Hillman thank you for uh blessing us with your presence today you you are a uh quite the controversial figure when it comes to religion Classics um ancient texts so what are you what is your uh your title you're you're a linguist you're a classicist what um what is your official title?    Hail Satan Danny it's nice to be here by the way thank you so much are you a Satanist?  am I a Satanist?  oh God those people bother me so much.  I don't no I I can't be a Satanist, I'm sorry.  they bother you what bothers you what bothers you about them the whole religious side of things yeah no no uh what am I well you are a religious scholar right no I'm a classicist religious Scholars no we eat those for breakfast yeah no no I'm a classicist what I do is what is a classicist it's somebody who is a specialist in the translation of ancient Greek some people do Latin too but that's you know Latin was for Hut dwelling Romans you know I mean it's just not to the level that the Greek is um the unique word count alone is off the charts for Greek it is a superior language that devoured languages in Antiquity it just ate them up boom boom and this is normal in any um language over time any language over time right some become strong and they become dominant others die out the Greek was the Behemoth it was the dragon of antiquity and modern Greek is nothing like it how long have you been studying and reading and translating Greek uh for 30 years now for 30 years now and um every classist knows it's our honor and duty to guard the Muse and to keep those ancient documents within the flow within time itself so we're we're dragons man that's what classes is really are unfortunately most classisists today they're focused on things that are more to build careers and garbage essentially so a lot of texts a lot of these ancient texts that we've got they aren't translated even, I've got an entire book that I brought to show to you that is from the 1800s it's Galen and these things are untranslated it's all in Greek I have the physical copy sitting in my bag wow so when you first decided to start studying what I guess the better way to put this is what pushed you in the direction to be interested in this stuff was you did you have a religious childhood or a religious upbringing or what got you into this Jesus got me into this yeah I actually when you were how old oh God when I was like 13 when you were 13 yeah so you were religious when you were a child oh yes I was born again love Jesus Christ oh Jesus yeah yeah um I used to teach at a mission are you kidding me I used to convert people I used to have- mostly drunks mostly drunks and I don't know we were like a place for them to go, and to sober up, but they had to listen to my crap oh excuse me they had to listen to my sermon - in order to get that meal - cuz that's how we spread brother do you understand I don't I don't follow what you're saying I converted souls in a mission you converted souls to Christianity when you were 13 uh no I was uh I started doing that when I was like uh 17 when you were 17 yeah I was teaching Sunday school class too cuz their Sunday school teachers sucked really yeah how does a 17-year-old get to start teaching Sunday school were your did your parents get you into this stuff oh of course you know you know through the family and through some very intelligent teachers like Dr Jay Vernon McGee oh God beloved Dallas Theologian you know what I mean Dallas Theological Seminary I went there for three months and their Greek program was so bad I said I went to the President of University I said hey it's up to stuff his name was Walvred John Walvred and I said your program isn't up to Snuff, your Greek program is terrible right so I went on to University to get a PhD and and so going going back to the Early Childhood stuff when you were in your teens you said you were teaching Sunday school yeah what particularly were you teaching and did was there some point in your life that led you to question the the teachings of the Bible and the teachings of the church and everything you knew when you were young is there a point like the yeah there was an exact point it was the night I went out I turned 21 and I went out to a big country western bar and I was like excuse me and that was it done virgin sacrificed right um I got there through Aristotle so I saw here's what happened I saw how bad the standards were on the Christian side for ancient Greek and I said I've got to follow a track to be able to to get there and um it went through the Sciences it went through the sciences and I think what happened was when I was 21 I just cracked, I was reading Aristotle and the pure unadulterated Glory of his reason just and you're talking about Greek you're reading Greek yeah what yeah so how did you learn Greek at 21 um because I went to I went to a special high school first of all okay shout out to the people from special projects special projects? that was his first name everybody you had to test to get into it right uhhuh um everybody that I was around is somehow involved in you know military government you know stuff like that we won the Chess Championship two years in a row mhm National Chess Championship right bunch of nerds right total nerds so I knew I would be going um to to learn about Jesus at a seminary someday because that was my bent I saved people you know and you said when you were saving people you were saving alcoholics drunks rather they were the easy pickins so what did they do they just came to you they said my life is terrible no it's a mission so they check in for the evening they got to sit and listen to us preach then they give them dinner mostly there to get fed you know you know charity so to speak but I was the one who was saving Souls that was my - it was my thing - it was delicious have you never saved a soul probably not no no oh you should try yeah well I have to learn you teach yummy okay so you're doing this at TW in your early teen saving souls in a mission at a mission it's called a mission okay um and then you decide in your early 20s you're going to learn Greek at the at the high school you're at no I started the that was my high school um right after that I went to the University of Arizona okay and started their Classics program there and I went through in three years and ate it ate it up and went to Tel Megiddo at the time and did a dig at Tel Megiddo in Israel so okay so you said you did a a Classics program at the University of Arizona when you when you first went into that program in college what what was your goal what were you looking for anything did you what what did you want to learn Jesus you wanted to learn about Jesus yes okay is that okay yeah I think so yeah all right I think so I'm just trying to get to the bottom of this man I'm trying I'm trying to understand your curiosity here that's I'm just trying to yeah I'm trying to dig deep into the psyche of Ammon Hillman okay I love it um okay so that's when you learned Greek yes was it hard to learn Greek? uh yeah and you never stop you never stop I I'm I'm not kidding you I can take a text right now, throw it in front of any classicist in the world and have them and say translate it and they'll be like mmmh yeah mmmm no. Nonnus (Νόννος) , 

• Nonnus (Νόννος) was a late antique Greek poet from Panopolis (modern Akhmim) in Egypt, who lived during the 5th century CE. He is best known for his monumental epic, the Dionysiaca, and his paraphrase of the Gospel of John into Homeric Greek verse. 

I can do that with Nonnus (Νόννος) right now, throw it in front of 98% of classissists out there they'll stumble and all the ones who have done Nonnus (Νόννος) they'll be able to get why is Nonnus (Νόννος) so hard to translate um because he's using an archaic style he's trying to do something that they were doing thousand years previous to him okay and he's putting together the longest epic it's about Dyonysuss and a bunch of arrow-poison-using women oh wow arrow poison yeah interesting hot hot stuff yeah yeah it also causes satyriasis (σατυρίασις) it's a drug yeah okay um do you know what satyriasis (σατυρίασις) is?  its a word for Satyr Satyr yeah what is Satyr Satyr is a guy who walks around with an erection constantly no constant how does he have an erection constantly?  constant unremitting erection yeah the old Spanish fly in there, oh God, keeps it hard all the time. you can kill a person they say after 7 days you got to stop them oh really yeah wow that's what they said in Antiquity seven days I don't know how'd they find out okay so going back to your college you're you're studying Greek and then you said at what point did you go to Israel and why did you go to Israel? yeah right after my bachelor's went to Israel and stayed there for a year and worked on the Tel Megiddo excavation what is that for people who don't know people who don't know anything about the stuff no that's okay why would they it's the place of Armageddon so um it's a site in Israel and it has a temple our team discovered the temple floor that was there, it's a Canaanite Temple floor under everything and that dates back the last time I saw they thought that dated back to about 4,000 BC so and I don't use the um about 4,000 BC so um it was a momentous wondrous um excavation and I'm proud to have been part of it yeah what kind of stuff did you find I found a chicken!  uh chicken yeah I found a chicken cuz I was digging the old French dump heap, what they found that was so important was the floor of a Canaanite Temple were these Canaanite priestesses in 4,000 BC where all the power, where all the authority is, oops, is there, yeah Tel Megiddo there it is I'm sorry I'm distracted that's it yeah Tel Megiddo um and it's a wonderful site and I tell you I slept the the most interesting part of the story is I slept in the vineyard of Jezebel hm yeah yeah and in the Caravan where I slept one night the Israelis pulled up and they started shelling BoomBoomBoom anyway that's a different story… in the vineyard of Jezebel there were two people who went nuts our season what is this Steve? two people who went nuts the Israel cops had to chase them down cuz they went totally nuts really yeah this is supposed to be Tel Meggido it's but it's like a a tour as well *very nice yeah yeah no there we are exactly.  some tourists threw a rock down at me once when I was down I chased him I went at him with a shovel I'm serious the tourists are terrible look at them all.  get out of here!  so what so what did you learn from the stuff you found at telmegito? um the the earliest occupation was probably by these Canaanite populations there which was 4,000 BC yeah they um they've got a circular dance floor for them to be worshiping whatever divinities it is that they worship and these are these are like the Phoenicians and the it's all up and down the coast Jezebel was a phonitian princess baby, you know what I mean? so they had a circular dance floor yeah right right is that unimpressive that said very impressive for 4,000 years ago it's very impressive well move on because when I was in the vineyard of Jezebel these these guys that went nuts they got up at night and they sat there and they talked and they told me what was going to happen to me what they say was going to happen to you? on successive nights they said a troop of demons will assist you to bring the Antichrist yeah who said that um two guys on two successive nights nuts they were people with us on the excavation right?  we're we're working during the day and in the evenings we're sleeping and people are waking up and they sleep and talking to me mhm and then going nuts is that Thunder yeah this is amazing we're doing this podcast in the middle of a thunderstorm yeah we got a storm so these guys told you what about the Antichrist?  they said I would be protected by a troop of demons a troop of demons? yeah and they said it on successive nights so like the first guy Moesha he went totally f*ing nuts right he sat up in bed 2 A.M started talking to me like a puppet the next morning runs off Boom the head of the kibutz where we're staying comes to me she says what's going on? this said off he goes I don't know right the next night I didn't think it was odd, I love Jesus at this point, mhm I didn't think it was odd but on the next night the dude that they replaced him with he did the same thing he sat up in bed he gave me the same message you'll be protected by a troop of demons troop of demons for what purpose to bring the Antichrist what did you make of that um I thought he was nuts the first time he said it and the second time he said it I thought wow this place is like what happened is there's some kind of material in the ground or something out here making these people crazy you know what I mean making people nutzs, the head of the kibutz came to me and she she said what's going on? and I said what do you mean? she said what's going on, two of your roommates have gone totally nuts! I said hell if I know yeah yeah what what do you what would you expect me to say when they claimed that I was able to levitate through doors at the University and they had a inquiry as to my state of demon possession.  When was this? when I worked for St Mari's University so this is much later yeah okay let's try to stay on track let's try to stay like in… wow you see what happens are you sure you're not the Antichrist? there's just a raincloud that follows him around everywhere what is the Christ what is the Antichrist? what is the Christ if you have to know the Antichrist, you have to know the Christ, right it's a Greek word for? for applying a drug to your eyes so that they may be opened. that's what the Christ means in Greek yes it's from the verb Chrio (Xrio) to be stung by the gadfly huh who's the gadfly? who is the godfly? yeah I don't know Socrates said he was, it's a thing they had going on, remember they have orgies and stuff, like that, so you better buckle up right but what does that have to do with the gadfly I mean you think orgies no oistres “to be stung” oh it's a state of mania they is they call it in Greek Oistra Mania okay to be in an altered state right right right okay anyways let's go back to um um you're in you're in Israel right and you're doing this excavation you're finding all this stuff these crazy people come up to you telling you that you're protected by a troop of demons yeah um how long did you stay there and then what did you do after that a year and a month and then I decided okay I've maxed out what's my interest here and okay came back and enrolled in a um another program which ended up master's program ended up sending me to a lab where I cut brains cut brains yeah okay what were you cutting brains for? to identify neuropeptides oh okay yeah um on the science I want this is your studying bacteriology no it hadn't gone to the bac-te but it's what led to the bac-te um I wanted to bolster my science okay education so I did a lot of like neuropeptides, what's a neuropeptide? yeah it's a it's a peptide that is active in the brain as part of a signaling system.   so we talk about communication between the hypothalamus and the pituitary and how puberty is regulated that was a big one we were looking for the peptide that um brings on premature puberty.  um so the neuropeptides that were responsible for puberty? yeah the onset of puberty what made you so interested in that um they had a grant for it wasn't mine they had a grant you just got thrown into it it's for premature yeah it's for uh people who have early onset puberty okay is there a problem with that there's a well hell yeah there's a problem with that what's the problem all that stuff is timed with growth so if you're what causes it peptides go astray in the brain but what makes the peptides go astray is there some sort of external influences oh we didn't know at the time what it was that's what I was doing was this is where I am in the experiment you know it's not an experiment it's just investigation but you're tagging you take an antibody conjugated substance and um you it's either something that fluoresces or it's a Dye of some sort right and you localize where these peptides are in the brains of these things that you sacrificed yeah we animals? yeah we used to drill holes in animals heads mhm and then put in a little catheter little tube and then you can insert a substance anything you want anything you can insert orange juice if you wanted but we would insert substances and then take another collector and see what the hypothalamus did and it was a beautiful it was a beautiful beautiful finding because they were mapping at the time people were mapping how the brain works and this is how they were figuring out what the hypothalamus does yeah absolutely yeah that's interesting stuff yeah I was proud to be a part of it it was a good good education how long did you do that Stuff how long did you do those studies a couple of years a couple of years uhhuh yeah I taught Endocrinology too oh did you really well everybody in the grad program had to you taught Endocrinology yeah uh-huh yeah I did the brain part of it so um and you had to graduate students had to like the hypothalamus and the pituitary and the the third ventricle man you know what that is what's the third ventricle it's an open space in the middle of your head really and it's filled with a fluid it's the Water of Life The Water of Life yeah and this fluid has did people in ancient times try to drink that Water of Life from people's heads you know they did!  do you want to see the text?!  I'm sure the text can verify this.  baby brains man baby brains oooo….. yeah no they used to bleed them too yeah so is this what is this Steve what are we looking at this is this is the third ventricle

beautiful Okay the third ventrical is it just does it say it's just liquid in there or what yeah it's a pristine pool it's beyond what is the purpose of it what is it how does what is the function to carry the messengers that's the scientific uh description of what it does!? yeah actually it is yeah really yeah huh yeah cuz it's communicating with all the tissue that um it's it's overlapping it's communicating okay and that little special area of the brain yeah there's the three ventricles right is like pristine that has to be the purest totally beyond the barrier for any sort of infection right if you've got an infection there you're you're dead really yeah wow yeah that's interesting yeah lots of brains I cut up lots of brains so um okay now what at what point in your life did you start writing this Infamous dissertation that got suppressed by the heads of the department in Classics when you wrote when you started writing about the use of drugs in Antiquity that's a perfect from that exact point okay um I picked up some professor professor Roemer came to me Professor Roemer yeah Frank Roemer University of Wisconsin? um yeah at the time he was at University of Wisconsin I think he went out somewhere in California um but um Frank Roemer and he said hey he said I I know you're when I was on the science side he said,  I already had him in Classics right, so he knew what my interests were and he said here we have a whole bunch of documents that nobody's ever translated from Greek have at it!, it was like a you know the greatest where do you find those documents the everywhere they've been for the last 2,000 years where just sitting there! where on his desk? in libraries oh really yeah nobody reads them classissists don't do it you know why why cuz they're hard they're hard cuz these Greeks are smart, they're smart, and these pharma- how many how many classissists you think know pharmacology yeah I have no idea probably not many zero zero zero yeah they don't do the medical stuff it's a shame it's a shame so I well that's just like any field right A lot of people who are experts in certain fields or certain disciplines they don't have a uh a wide variety of of skills or disciplines as well they're typically just in one lane you got to talk to a lot of people yeah or you got to be a jack of all trades interdisiplinary interdisciplinary that's a good word love that you keep one foot on either side of the fence you know what I mean yeah yeah so I went to the University of Wisconsin Madison to work with the country's best medical historian who was and what's his name again John Scarboro John Scarboro yeah and he had a knowledge of the medical side as well okay but he was also a great Byzantine- he did a ton of the Byzantine sources he was one of the translators of the (PGM) Greek Magical Papyri so that in it's a big deal it's a big deal come on can you explain what the Magical Papyri is for people don't know yeah it's a collection of Greek works it's all about some of the dirtiest cult magic stuff you've ever seen people who say they know gnosticism they haven't read this thing in in Greek they don't know what they're talking about.   um this is the one where we get the uh the um all the body fluids that are being used for the sake of medicine okay and it's in this papyri yeah yeah yeah who knows… One Source One Source all right we'll get into this more later um but let's let's so so let's go back to uh so I was studying with him yeah studying and your and developing your uh he gives you these papers these uh texts to translate yes and this is when you first discovered the use of drugs or the idea of drugs being ubiquitous and Antiquity yeah I was studying ancient pharmacology that was what my area was, that's what I was forging okay and you already knew about galin right you'd already been studying Galen yeah I know and I had been to a I had been to a conference in uh England and the London Times said wow this guy's work is the last Wild Frontier of Classics you know um and they're right cuz nobody does this stuff mhm nobody for people also to give some more context to people who are listening who is Galen can you explain who Galen was?  yeah Galen is a second century physician of uh he works for Marcus aelius the emperor and he's probably one of the greatest intellects of Western Civilization definitely he was a he wrote thousands and thousands and thousands of pages and probably 10% of it has been translated if that if nobody goes near the pharmaceutical stuff.   Now in 2013 I saw for the first time, a dissertation was written in which the person translated Galen's Theriac to Piso, the.. What's a theriac? a theriac is a multi-drug component that's used to balance a poison or deathbringer they called them to balance a poison or deathbringer so like an antidote yeah exactly an antidote but they they called it a a galenic reaction unrelated to the reason of Galen oh okay a galenic reaction that's reaction that's to bring the balance of the one that can kill you with the one that can keep you alive bring those together that's theriac baby wow interesting what's the point of that um to die and to be born again die and to be born again wow okay yeah do you want how much galin have you read uh considerable yeah considerable how many give me an idea like how many pages oh god um thousands thousands yeah and he's written how much oh 22 volumes at 1000 each so somewhere around 22,000 pages and and where does all this literature exist like where is it being held it's held currently in a book that's sitting out in my you have all of it yeah I have I got it from John's Hopkins wow yeah cuz Professor Scarboro was in with all the book Traders right and they were like oh s*t a Galen has become available okay can I run out and get Galen and show you grab and show you?  go grab it he's got an original Galen book?  It’s 1840 oh my goodness this is wild st Steve yeah what do you think about this man are we still rolling?* yeah good here it comes here he comes with the original original 1840s this is from 1840? yeah what's the date say on it 1827 there you go look I was not even close.  Galen Opera Omnia Kuhn 14 1827 yeah I was off a few years.   so so open it up and you'll see the it's basically um Danny it's a medical text for physicians in 18 you know in the early 1800s wow right what are they studying they're studying Galen you asked me who Galen was. guess what he's the dude who dominated medicine from the second century when he lived until until that book that you're holding right? this is the last set you're talking the second century BC right yeah no no ano-Domini oh okay okay yeah Marcus Aurelius yeah this is his physician, by the way he says in here that Marcus Aurelius is a total dope head what language is this Greek on the top Latin on the bottom and the Latin translation is garbage right wow man this is wild yeah now what you're holding there is Volume 14 of a 22 volume set, from John's Hopkins, as you can see those bastards put their Mark all over by the way isn't that beautiful paper look at this look at this everybody that's centuries old centuries think about it look at that right oh it's gorgeous it's a work of art it's a work of art but how many pages is this 700 800 Pages 800 Pages now think about um it's volume 14 which is his It’s 1 of 14 books yeah it's one of 22 and but it is uh 14 and 14 is all about the pharmacology of the antidotes and nobody looks into that stuff and Gaylen says Marcus Auralius is a total dope head he's on way too much. what was he on specifically um the theriac. what does the theriac mean? it's a combination of plants and animal products that is meant to balance a cult ritual drug called the Black Death the cult ritual drug that was called the black death yeah this is from Nero's library right? Nero has his arch physician get this formula from the East for the theriac.  the theriac is meant to balance the cup of Lady Babylon. okay all right all right you're you're you're kind of losing me here I'm I'm I'm having trouble following yeah go ahead so let's let's go back to I think I feel like we're starting to go down a rabbit hole we're it's going to be hard for us to get out of yes so I want to make sure we we we explain uh this story in a in a linear fashion so people can follow it and don't get lost um you're studying Galen right and you're you're working on your dissertation and and what happens next oh so for my dissertation I did it on Roman Pharmacy okay right Roman Pharmacy Roman Pharmacy, nobody's written a work on Roman Pharmacy and I had already done a translation and commentary for a master's thesis that's usually what they give to doctoral students I had done one for a master's thesis and I was like I'm not doing that again so I'm going to write a text that's just kind of a general Roman Pharmacy text so that people can learn about drugs in the ancient world and the committee told me take out the chapter uh on recreational drugs or we're not going to give you the degree and um so you had so you you only had one chapter that was about recreational drugs yeah yeah the rest were all medicinal oh wow yeah but didn't you say that they didn't distinguish between recreational and medicinal is that right no that's exactly right we were distinguishing we do it now but they didn't back then no back then things that you and I would call recreational they didn't consider recreational they considered medicinal Hmmm right so curing depression is a medicinal process how long did you spend on this dissertation oh couple of years couple of years yeah yeah and then um so there was one specific moment a date where you had to go in to I guess receive your judging on it or get graded on it or get a feedback on it I have no idea how this process works to walk me through it yeah so you write your dissertation and you take it before your defense before your defense okay yeah and your committee there is a group of professors and usually there's one from outside the department just so the university stays kind of impartial you know what I mean and um so it's a committee of professors anyway you present your dissertation to them and then they either tell you you you're terrible you don't they tell you you're terrible?  yeah um yeah or uh they pass you and you get to walk out and say I'm a I have a doctoral degree so they told me at the end they're supposed to give a thumbs up or thumbs down they didn't give me anything and I was standing there looking around like what? right and I um and they uh I met with the head of the department and was told um you have to take out the chapter on recreational drugs AND you have to scrub any reference to recreational drugs in the rest of the work. and, you're fine, yeah! what did you what did you what was your response um she said “the Romans just wouldn't do such a thing” this is the head of the department and by that time I had seen so much stuff the Romans were doing I was like oh my God I understand what's going on they're they're building a ceiling that we can't get Beyond that doesn't exist we go we should be able to go right through that thing with these texts we can do that.   

anyhow so I took the material and I sent it to McMillan I just I just scrubbed it and then I sent it to McMillan and um they accepted it Thomas Dunn accepted it uh and it was fantastic McMillan is what it was uh St Martin's press Publishing Company it used to be St Martin’s Press yeah publishing company St Martin's press okay yeah and that's what became the book the famous book that you created The Chemical Muse correct correct and and once you scrub you you decided to scrub the chapter from your dissertation and any any sort of reference to drugs whatsoever and then they accepted it and gave you your your PhD any any references to recreational drugs recreational there were a whole bunch of drugs all over it right for healing right I mean drugs that you use in anesthesia right right right right you know what did they use you fantastic what was the response after your book The Chemical Muse was published? um the Bryn Mawr classical review came out which is the big reviewer um and a European Professor uh French um came out and said “this book is dangerous” he said “it shouldn't be read at any University any time ever” and he was like what year are we talking? oh this was uh 2008 wow 2008 okay and um so uh it was it was roundly um ignored you know put into the the guy said this guy obviously has a drug agenda I was like oh no let's just talk about the drugs cuz they don't read these texts now that same journalist has gone and talk to um the aforementioned BrynMawr classical reviewist and now they're writing a book about Shamanism, all the same stuff, all the same material, it's cuz they didn't know it you were the first one to sort of uncover the stuff and make it and make it known I was not um the first I would say I was the one who took the big picture of it.   I was the first one to bring the science side on over who was the first one Carl Ruck Carl Ruck yeah yeah no cuz he said they're look he said they're using something in the Elusinian Mysteries right he was already looking at, he didn't have any problem with the concept that he coined Entheogens, right, these are substances that are En Theos that bring that Divine being into you mhm it's a whole class of drugs that were using excuse me they were using um have you ever had any conversations about Carl Ruck with the stuff that you discovered and this like your the stuff you talk about in The Chemical Muse yeah I've had the pleasure once The Chemical Muse was published um they sent it to Dr Ruck for um for you know Review? consideration you known, cuz he's the only one who had been on the list of people who had talked about drugs and he got shamed he got completely shamed I um well look it seems like this it seems like this idea and this the idea of drugs being used back then is becoming more and more accepted I mean you got people like Brian Muraurescu and Gram Hancock you know I think Brian's new book's called or his latest book is the Immortality Key where he talks about the the mystery cults of Eleusis and the Ergot yeah um I know Brian oh really yeah how you how did you guys meet um Professor Ruck sent him to me to get the medical stuff.   so you guys spoke about when he was working on this book yeah we had a couple of interviews before when he uh came up with the idea gave him a couple of interviews about what what the sources are and what the extent of the stuff is he um he said do you mind if I mention you on Joe Rogan and I said uh yes um go ahead and do that but if you do that you have to mention that Jesus Christ was arrested in a public park with a naked boy at 4:00 a.m. screaming I'm not a trafficker you made sure he you told him he needed had to say that I made sure he needed to say that exact phrase and so so he didn't, so he chose! so he chose! yes yeah right right um yeah yeah so look I mean it was really interesting to me reading your book and I was I was really gripped by the what you've sort of uncovered which it makes a lot of sense when you really think about it that life back then life in in Antiquity was fking terrible uh and and people didn't die from heart disease and from diabetes and from old age like they do today they died from hand toand combat and plagues and famine yeah and to live back then was a miserable existence for the most part infant mortality was what like 50% and they needed these drugs just to get through the day and the warriors fighting these wars they needed to take these drugs to suffer these these insurmountable wounds they would have to they would have to suffer in battle um can you talk a little bit to that and to to like some of the details that you uncover in your book about what life was like and and how hard it was and and the amount of death and plague and famine and and how these drugs were used to uh to curb these sort of ailments** yeah yeah the best way is to resurrect the soul of Hypocrates and to look at the works that he wrote uh called The Epidemics in which he describes all the diseases that people are getting what they're suffering from all the ailments oh my god you know what herpes does when it goes untreated no oh Hypocrates has descriptions of it they call it herpes because their word Herpeton is their word for a snake or something that slithers, something that crawls, cuz that's what herpes does when it goes untreated it crawls all over you, it rots you. thank God I don't know about that you get descriptions of this kind of stuff and you see life on a different, you know at a different level.  onethird of women were having death as a side effect of birth onethird of women were dying from child birth, the problems are bleeding.  right right they're constantly trying to control bleeding and whatnot yeah with drugs with drugs oh miserable and you know about a third of the population of the youth from in the late teens that's getting eaten off that's getting eaten off they become soldiers and certain number of those get sacrificed right there's a it's not a cheapness they don't have a there isn't a sense of futility um it's looked at as a sacrifice in what what point in history are we talking about oh God far back is the Bronze Age all the way down to about Byzantine the bronze age is what, more than older than the fifth century BCE? yeah yeah oh I'm sorry um you know in the best time of the bronze age it was late Bronze Age around 1200 to 1100. 1200 to 1100 that's where some of these oldest texts that you've read come from yeah the Mycenaen Linear B stuff comes from like, 1600 um BC which is that's spectacular they've got Dyonisis and all that stuff I worked with Emmet L Bennett who was a Navy Navy cryptographer who studied who cracked Linear B and in it we have the name Theonosos he's the son of Zeus the thunderer and um it was a gorgeous gorgeous world to be able to follow that but that's where the Greek can take you sign up for courses now.  sign up now! it's linked below well let me ask you this how and this is like this is sort of like broad Strokes questions yeah what what um how did your development of your understanding of these ancient texts and and reading this ancient Greek and even the Hebrew everything that you've read how did that change your perspective on religion and Christianity and Catholicism you you were raised what Christian or Catholic I love Jesus man I was I don't know what was your family Baptist Baptist okay okay yeah so so once you start to understand the history and the text how did this change your worldview of religion um and and and what sort of like misconceptions did you have that were Shattered by this understanding I had a longterm uh relationship with a muse so the whole time that I'm developing this educationally ….

so so these texts that you're that you're reading and that you're translating are these the original original original sources of of religion of Christianity and and Catholicism and baptism and all this stuff is this like The Originals?  yeah this is the language that held that um all of those texts so the New Testament it's all written in ancient Greek right um the what you call the Old Testament I'm going to shock people with this one what you call the Old Testament which people say is written in Hebrew right? which is not a language that I am work with I had to take a little bit of modern Hebrew when I was there just because it was part of the you know education and um but the text that you think is written in Hebrew is not, it's a Greek text that's written in the 3rd century BCE it's a helenistic text called um that you call the Torah or the Old Testament that is not an original Hebrew text.   now how can I say that? what we have is the septuagint that I'm talking about it's the Greek Old Testament do you understand Greek Old Testament mhm okay it's the oldest form that we've got okay okay the whole big deal about the Dead Sea Scrolls was they said: huh we finally have some Hebrew cuz none of it survives right Ancient Hebrew is only an 8,000 unique word count language. okay which puts it in the realm of something you could expend by the end of your breakfast.  8,000 words that's not a lot okay and the Dead Sea Scrolls were all in Hebrew? the Dead Sea Scrolls were fragments in Hebrew and fragments in Greek and everybody assumed: “oh this is the original in Hebrew” right because now we're following church history you and I live in a time in the stream the “time stream” we live at a time when we think that there was an original Hebrew text of the Old Testament…. but there wasn't!!!! it doesn't exist! right. and to show people the Greek now what's the proof what's the proof the proof is when you read the Septuagint, that is the Greek Old Testament mhm it does not read as a translation, it reads as an original.   it uses Greek idiom.   it's like a fingerprint on a language, and it's got Greek how can you tell it reads in… Greek fingerprints how do you discern the difference whether it be an original or a translation oh you can tell it's easy to tell because colloquialisms don't translate, right? and so it's like tagging it, so how do you, you're testing this language to see if it's… to see what its age is so you tag it with certain certain things and one of them is colloquialisms. right? the other one is technical vocabulary. you cannot translate from a higher technical degree, to an uh excuse me… you can't translate from a median technical degree to a high technical degree okay you can go down the slope, you can take something that's not technical right um and make make it more technical right you force that you you can't drift Upstream right right right so the original is going to have the highest degree of technicality yes so the Dead Sea Scrolls were not the highest degree of technical writing, they were lower they were lower than the Greek uh what was the word the the book you're talking about they’re Hebrew back translations because at the time the Dead Sea Scrolls, they are Hebrew back translations, so they took the Greek of what specifically they took the Greek and they said “how do we translate this into Greek” okay that's why you lose all the technical terms cuz they they didn't have them in their language and you and what I'm asking is what was, so the Dead Sea Scrolls came from where what were the sources of the Dead Sea Scrolls so those caves and kumran right they've dated these things to probably I've heard as early as first BC but all the way up to second on Anno Domini so somewhere in that range somebody is taking the Greek text that we know is already established cuz people are quoting it right we know for example they had the Book of Enoch in Greek because people are quoting it in Greek. so that's how you can that's how you can like track your library where's your library at the time? right. that's how you track it by the way have you read The Book of Enoch yeah uhhuh I read the Giza fragments of it I can say that much what do you think about all these people talking about anunaki aliens flying around and building pyramids back in the day I think it's silly you do? damn it you know how many podcasts we've done with people who claim that they're experts on the Anunnaki yeah it's seems to be a big a big area but they were drug users bro what can you what can you expect that's what they taught in the Giza in the Giza text it says they taught the women the art of drugs. so these weren't aliens they were just drug users they were just drug addicts they were giants bro they were giants yeah yeah like real giants gigantas … they taught them the drug craft that's what the text says and you don't understand man they've got Medusae at the time you say wait wait wait go back to Giants yeah what are you talking about Giants that's the Greek word gigantas Giants meaning physically they were huge people no okay right no.   they had a superior knowledge of the drugs.  and they had a group of women who were called the Medusae and the Medusae could hit you with a drug on an arrow, and paralyze you, and they would take you and do things to you.  and that's how the group of these women function, that's how they hunted. they hunted men, you can imagine the society, of women that hunted men yeah you have to kill three men in order to get married huh yeah and they don't really marry you they just Farm men and when when is this what time period was this this is Bronze Age late Bronze Age Bronze Age like 1200 the peak of 1200 say BCE, 1200 this is when the Great Queen Medea is around.   

yeah and so back okay okay this is great I'm loving this but back to my original question how fundamentally how did did your understanding and and learning all of this ancient Greek change your understanding of how religion is preached today and the story of the Bible it's a fairy tale.  it's a fairy tale.  what they teach now and do now is not even a hair's breadth of semblance to what they did originally.  yeah, you don't understand, a mystery is not a word that means a question or something you don't know, right?  the mystery is the performance that brings you through death back into life.  and once you've been initiated into that environment you're given Keys, things to open up a way to decode what's being said so that you understand what's at the higher level.  now, if you're like Jesus you do that with 12 children people don't realize that the apostles are just children.  pump the brakes we'll get there okay okay we're going to get there don't worry this is the best day of my life is it really thank you for allowing me to come I'm going to say you've had a terrible life if this is the best day.   in Greece in in Athens in we're talking the Iron Age or the Bronze Age when when started to develop uh these mystery Cults of Eleusis what time was this? yeah this is late Bronze Age late Bronze Age and couple of generations before the Trojan War a couple of generations before the Trojan War and this is when they were experimenting with these with these drugs the that would uh the psychotropic drugs like Ergot yeah and and other things.  what were some of the other drugs they were using back then? they were using the ones that make you crazy so there's several classes and one of them, the deathbringers that's one we talked about, another is the ones that make you crazy, and permanently? no no temporarily, and they would have people cured you know “cured” because they've got antidotes we even have stories about people going out and he's like oh my daughters, they went off on their cult thing and they're just, they're still not coming down you know what do we do and he has to go whip them up an antidote, right?  for them to stop being in the state of mania and it's things like Hyoscyamine, Scopolamine and Atropine containing Hyoskyamos (ὑοσκύαμος) is the Greek word and it's these plants that contain these substances that you know, they found them in hair, painted on hair cuz they’re offerings. um and what was the purpose, what did they gain, by taking these drugs. and what sort of what did they learn what sort of Enlightenment did they achieve what was the what was the the ends to the use of these drugs for them yeah yeah we have an instead of me making something up you could read the Mithras liturgy in the Greek Magical Papyri where it talks about what you'll see, and how how you should interact, and what you have to do. oh they had like a protocol yeah it's like a manual wow yeah yeah and you got to have the right things to bring with you because you got to make the drugs right.  you get there and you first of all you're going to be fasting for a certain number of days and they put you through these repetitive songs, right?  We have these in the PGM where you're setting the images in your head.   Remember this is idolatry.  Adelon (ἀδήλον) is the word for image, Right?  Image.

• adelon (ἀδήλον)
  • describe things that are hidden, obscure, or mysterious
  • the image reflected in a mirror or in water;  image in the mind
  • place or state of hidden knowledge, mystery, or the "inner chamber" of one’s being

So when we're on our snake venom and you've got a concoction with a, and they're using tons of snake stuff, I got an entire author for you watch this Philumenus (Φιλούμενος) is his name Philumenus Philumenus with a Ph on the front, yeah, he is a physician somewhere before the fourth Century because they start quoting him in the fourth, and he's a physician who talks about the Venoms.  

• Philumenus (Φιλούμενος)
  • On Deadly Poisons (Περὶ Θανάσιμων Φαρμάκων) - Original Greek (not available)
    • Oribasius, a 4th-century Byzantine physician, preserved parts of Philumenus' writings in his medical compendia. Oribasius quotes Philumenus on venomous bites, particularly concerning snakes and other poisonous animals
    • Aëtius, another Byzantine physician, also includes Philumenus' insights in his Tetrabiblos, a medical encyclopedia.
  • De venenatis animalibus eorumque remediis - Medieval latin translation

I've got a couple of slides of him, he talks about the Venoms that are used, some great stuff, by the way. Snake Venoms were used as as uh mind altering drugs or they were used as antidotes? they were used as medicines, medicines right? Right.  the Medusae really exist, right they're women, they're a group of women.  These are scythian tribes by the way.  What do I mean by that, tribes that were a horse culture, mobile, and they ravaged people. That's how they, you know, got what they needed.  And the Medusae were the ones that you said they had to kill a certain amount of men before they could get married? it's the same tribes that are producing those that specific group of women they have this cult thing where they apply the medicine to their hair they wear it in their hair and they use arrows and that poison can petrify you and they'll drag you off and they'll do things to you like what eat your brain no no no sexy stuff they'll either mate or kill you well huh yeah yeah it's a shame to w i me up relation that's weird that back then you would have to poison a man to have sex with them right like wouldn't a guy just want to have sex with some chick?  no these are people being raided.  imagine being raided. I mean it's hard to rape a man if you're a woman right so you got to give him drugs to make him hard when you're raping him cuz you're probably going to kill him too.  that's kind of hard to imagine yeah okay yeah and Euripides he’s got an account of these priestesses, remember this is we're talking the Black Sea.

okay so um what effects did drug use have on the philosophy of Western Society um and the Democratic forms of governance yeah so um it's a part of the fabric of pushing Society toward um inspiration looking for sources of inspiration all the earliest Greek temples are temples of the muses so that written word connection is very very important and bring.  magic! people want to know what is Magic, right?  classically it's that control of logos.  it's a control, people think logos oh that's a Greek word right oh, and the seminarians get excited, you know. I mean and they don't really know it because seminarians don't read classical texts.  The logos is that reason, that Reckoning, that Reckoning.  okay   so that's what to me that's whats, I studied so carefully, that's why classicists study ancient Greek, yeah they do.  who is Solon?  Solon he's a reformer he's a he's a rich reformer who basically turns and gives power back to the people.   He was advised by oh this guy on crack.  he carried it around in a he carried it around in the hoof of something.  and it was a plant / root that they said he grounded up and snorted all the time. he advised Solon, and Solon's reforms ultimately become what you and I know as democracy. yeah. what is the proper definition of democracy and Antiquity compared to our democracy today? yeah it's the rule of the people if you want. it's the rule of the people the damos is just the neighborhood you know. Athens is divided up into deems right, the Hood, you get a neighborhood speak. that's what democracy is it's a neighborhood speak, and it's direct representation too and they've got all sorts of reforms like look you cannot take any money while you are a you know part of the Boule part of the council you can't you can't take any money and you have to have terms and everything and it’s I believe what inspired Jefferson part of your book uh says that there was 300,000 people in in Athens right is that and then and then 10% of them were part of these councils that sounds right there was like 30 ,000 of them were part of these councils that made the rules and made the laws and and um they have a couple of assemblies the Boule and the Ecclesia, yeah which becomes our word for church! well I love the way that your book described the differences between our Democratic Republic that we have in America compared to uh their version of democracy and you had all these people that would have to debate all these ideas and rules and laws and punishments for crimes um and I think you said that people only were able to do this for one year at a time they had like onee terms or whatever it was different at different times but right right and what we have now is so far away from that very very far away from that yeah well we don't also don't have juries with 300 people either can you imagine that just big crowd of the people from the polis, doing the city thing right they're being they're exercising their politya that's where we get our word politics right, it's the functioning of the city.  and they were vehemently against people who could gain any sort of benefit in this system or or make any sort of money or any sort of economic gain from from this system to corrupt it like it was it was the it was like the their version of democracy was essentially to protect Humanity from itself yeah exactly it put the breakes it was the ultimate check and balance definitely and it's what inspired our democracy or the thing we call democracy yeah but our democracy is so much different I mean it's if if you look at all the people that are in the government and have been in the government making decisions and making millions of dollars for so long they're just it is run by tyrants yes that's how you know the Greeks said they said whoever is profiting, watch who's profiting, and you cannot have the running of the state with somebody profiting from it because when you do it becomes corrupt.  they knew that.  you you have to keep that government sacred you have to keep it sacred right yeah and Solon was one of the originals uh in responsible for the creation of democracy Yeah well yeah things that led to ultimately what you and I would say voila democracy and how long did this last um you could argue that um this is a process that doesn't start and end.  but it's a process that Cycles throughout time um and the deity, this is where it gets cool, the deity that we put on the hill, is that Warrior.  that Warrior girl.   yeah, we put a warrior girl on the hill, and you know what she does?  she nourishes the serpent King.  isn't that funny?  she gives him her haema (αἷμα).   what does this mean?  her blood.  drink my blood.  yeah, they're using blood as a medicinal.  yeah, the Virgin Queen.  she's the one who raises that serpent King.   yeah no, they've got him, you can go to Athens today, go to the top of the, look for the erectum, on the top of the place, and be like “where is he, where's the serpent King”.   He’s there! who is the serpent King, Stephen can you find this guy? look for Erichthonius, right? Eric thonus? Eric thonus. he's from the ground baby, Thon when Jesus is on the cross, and he's like “I'm thirsty - Sabak Thon”.. all right that's what Jesus said when he was on the cross? yeah is this in the Bible? yeah oh really? yeah why would I why would I make this up well I'm not saying you're making it up I'm just trying to distinguish the difference between what's in the the the Bible and what's in the text and I assume that they’re drastically different right?  no I will give you the hardcore evidence what is the difference… it's just the text I'm just going to bring you a Greek text and this is from the biblical Greek text I my question is what is the H how big of a gap is there between the original texts and the Bible people read today? mhm um okay so these are the texts that are ultimately assembled into what you call the Bible right those are the same thing right this is the there's only some pieces like there's a there's a huge load of ancient Greek texts and only certain pieces are cherry-picked for the Bible?  oh yeah I see what you mean what's the common thread that's uniting all of these things together, it's the Cults man and the operation of the Cults, they're driving the literature at the time.  yeah, they've got a hostage and they're bringing it in.  and you can get that from the read, all you got to do is bring up those Cults and their activities.  the stuff the early Christians were doing, they're collecting blood. and this is from their own insiders who are telling us this, Ustatheus tells us this.  and he says “oh my God he says look at what they're doing in these ceremonies” and he goes on to describe it, and I've described it in detail.  but they collect the blood who is this guy fetal blood who's Eric thonus oh this King.   this king of the, the serpent King.  can you pull up a description of Steve I need Wikipedia's I need Wikipedia's description to give me the truth so I know, and to keep Ammon in Check.

Erichthonius in Greek mythology.  King Erichthonius was a legendary early ruler of ancient Athens According to some myths he was autochthonous yeah exactly and what happens is Hephestus comes along and he's like wow look at the beauty of what we've made.  he was adopted and raised by Athena with this virgin Athena.  her name is Ah-Tha-Na, okay?  in Dorian.  so how did we get okay so explain to people listening how we got to ericthonius from soulon creating democracy um it's that line.  it's the drug using mystery that drives everything.  cisero says his life was begun again.  he was reborn.  what happened?  he went to the great Resurrection Forum at Eleusis. these guys These Guys these guys were taking drugs and having some great trans transcendental experience right and and they were similar to people when they take crazy psychedelic trips today, right, they call it the ego death or they do Ayhuasca ceremonies, this is what's happening to people back then.  Is that what you're kind of describing?  yeah yeah yeah okay yeah okay and it's a death to to life, I think it's a death to life experience.  it's a rebirth, or what they described anyway is a rebirth.  mhm and yeah that makes sense yeah they put you, the drug concoction is incredible, we have it in Nero's Library.   we have it, we have the exact concoction that they used.  has anybody ever tried to recreate it?  I've tried to get people to do so (hahaha)  have you asked Hamilton to try to recreate it? he said “give me the formula” so I did! mhm um and he’s got it.   could he?  it's got a lot of stuff in it that I don't know if you know, he could actually produce.  Right?   it's got several, it's got like seven snake Venoms.  seven different snake Venoms? yeah, you can put it up your butt.  oh my God.  is that how they is that how they typically did it back in the day like a suppository? yeah we've got a description of a guy who um his Priestess, she's spanking him, with some stinging nettles, right?   on his genitalia.   and she's putting inserting that into his anus you know, it's a rectal drug administration.  and we have a text that describes it, it's called a Satyrikon.  Satyrion was the word they used in Latin, it's borrowed from Greek.   that is the drug that causes you to have priapism right?  what is priapism? priapism is constant erection.  okay okay and this is what the Medusa use on their victims?  is it too early?  can we talk about that now?   

I want to lay a solid foundation for your work and your research before we go there.  so, back to ancient Greece.  democracy is formed by Solon and Aristotle and Plato where did they come into the picture?  um they’re are a couple of Smarties couple of Smarties yeah and uh who else was there Pythagoras? Yeah, he's a little bit earlier and he's founding, he's the one who said by the way that um, they came to him and asked him they were going to send out a colony, and the Oracle had given the goahead and you have to understand this is late-coming from late Bronze Age.  um governmental Tech, where you have oracles that rule that tell you who can go to war with who. you know, which Tyrant needs to be executed.  right?   if you send an embassy out, and they ask the Oracle and she says execute him, right?  what about this leader we got, and she's says “execute him”, that's it, he's dead.  what is so special about this Oracle?   um they start with these drugs, they use the drugs that those scythian tribes are using up on the Black Sea, and they're causing this transformation.   that they describe as adamantine freedom.  so, Freedom that is not corruptible.   Right?   it's a form of government that's why they call them the Medusae from Medua it's an old Mycenean concept.   um yeah yeah any who.   we we we were talking briefly earlier about the Dead Sea Scrolls and you said the Dead Sea Scrolls were part of them were written in Hebrew and they were back translated from earlier Greek right?   yeah, no. none of them were originally written in Hebrew.  they're all originally written in Greek.  that's why they had complete Greek texts with them.  Greek was the first.  there was no, there was no Hebrew spoken at the time.  Hebrew had become a liturgical language, right?  by the 2 Century BCE.   why Greek?  I stood in a synagogue in Israel, second century.  and you know was written?  there was nothing in Hebrew, it was all Greek.  really?  and people are, yeah no, you can check me on it, right?  they all are, um they all have Zodiacs, right?  right? wow yeah isn't that something?  Yeah.  that's all reflected in the language it's like a fingerprint man you can track this stuff.   the Old Testament,  if I say anything today the Old Testament is a work of the third century BCE and it's originally in Greek.  yeah the name Eve (Awa) is the shout that a bachant makes.  Eve is the shout that a bachant makes,  what's a baccant? it's a woman under the influence of some pretty powerful drugs who's celebrating… everything is about drugs there's nothing that's not about drugs is there anything is there anything in history that has nothing to do with drugs or is it all drugs?  yeah but it was boring you know you just refuse to acknowledge it if it's not about drugs that's what I'm taking from this, is that right?  no no it's just so many drugs.  yeah, no.  I mean the Bacchanalia, right?  the Ecstasy.  the word, the place we get the concept “ecstasy”, is from the state that one of these women would be in.   and they could murder you, and it was totally freaking legal. and that was one of the things that they like to do.  you know why?  you get a bloodthirst.  does that bother you? you get a blood thirst? yeah cuz and you carry around these baskets (we have these represented)  full of snakes, and snakes and dildos.  

*was everything, like, do you ever question whether you're just trying to find like the most provocative sht in this ancient text and you're not looking at it from an unbiased perspective like you're just looking for all the most provocative sexual deviant sh*t with laced with drug drugs and psychedelics and trip and and like the most cultish crazy thing you can like it do you ever do you ever just like find like when you're looking through these texts do you ever like like maybe I'm not looking at this from a neutral perspective like maybe I got somehow corrupted at some point and I'm only looking for the stuff that's going to fly in the face of Academia because they fked me over when I was doing my dissertation no no, what drags me in is the Christ.  I'm still looking for Jesus.  that's your that's the one thing that term “Christ” is a pharmaceutical term. is it is it possible that the texts that you've read that tell you some of these things can be translated in different ways or seen from different perspectives or or is what you're saying that these texts say is that is that objective fact yeah I'm all about sources and you you have to be genuine to your source so when I say something I know it sounds outrageous but there's a source that does exactly what I just said that's all I'm supposed to do as a journalist is report to you the sources.  and um let me give you an example um there's a there's a guy named Nonnus and Nonnus he writes a paraphrase of John, the Gospel of John, okay?   and in it Nonnas talks about Mary's Alabastrum and that whole Sexy event and what that Mary's what? alabastron what does that mean? oh it's an oil containing device, it's a dildo, yeah yeah, there's older forms of them that are bigger mhm um Aristophanes makes fun of it on the stage, okay, in the Liss Estrada, Aristophanes was an ancient, what he a he was a playright? Comedian comedian like an ancient comedian the father of comedy, the father, come on man this is Aristophanes he's the one they March out on stage you know big erections and all that the last chapter of your book was all about him yeah it was it was fascinating hearing that you know back then they they were able to make fun of you know the top Elite part of the society and the people in government and he made fun of Socrates ripped Socrates right?  yeah it's the stage is a religious place, the stage in Antiquity was not for entertainment nobody's getting rich off of it, what we're doing is we're purifying the people yeah and so they needed that, they needed that humor, the Romans carried the same thing for the to their credit, those hut dwelling Romans, to their credit they did bring this protection as well, and you see it on their Imperial side when you've got a whole bunch of people surrounding Julius Caesar yelling at him things like “are you sleeping with the King” you know stuff like that, cuz he was visiting some place.   they're trying to ward off the malaficia the magic that's bad making.  what do, do you ever like when you're reading these texts how do you know what could how do you know what you're reading isn't sort of like an ancient cuz I'm sure people in the ancient times they when they were writing everybody whether you're a journalist or um whatever it is you everybody has an ax to grind right and how do you know like what you're reading that is trying to explain an event or a person isn't sort of like a a tabloid or a or a a hitpiece for lack of a better term that is skewing the the Optics of what was really happening.   yeah I, to what you're talking about is getting through a dark cave essentially. yeah there's a line on the wall, and with a rope on it. and you can follow it from one end of the cave to the other.  that's how we get through it back and forward through the cave, yeah, and in this case it's the pharmacology, the science, it's not just the pharmacology, it's the science.  that's really what if you follow the scientific development of people, and watch that over time, you can notice trends.  like what's popular when they're reaching a pinnacle and the Greeks can now Express calculus.  with words!  Right?  that's, you know, that's quite a, quite an advancement.  can you express calculus with words? no I can't even do it yeah no forget that, physics too, physics too. man. right no, no. um but yeah I don't want to Rattle on what what do you want to you want to ask another question?  yeah yeah I have I have I have an endless amount of questions um are you familiar with um the guy John Marco Allegro who spent all of his life deciphering the Dead Sea Scrolls and he wrote The Sacred Mushroom and the cross?  one of the reasons Carl Ruck has anything to do with me is because I have no interest.  I have no interest in any of that.  and you think that, isn't that insulting to Carl Ruck? it seems right in line with what you're doing though no.  well it does! but I have no interest in it, because it attracts!  I'm sorry can I Danny I'm going to be completely honest with you, there's a lot of Hokum.   yeah there's a lot of Hokum, we only have The Sources. *that's what I'm saying this is so hard to navigate what's good what what's bullsht and what's real** go to the primary sources that's easy that's easy for you to say! yes! enroll in my class today! right yeah? that's exactly the point of why you need classicists. that's why Thomas Jefferson was trying to recreate democracy, right? “no establishment of any laws for religion” right? right purifying he purified the stream.  made another democracy and, wait! and he's the one who said…  I'm sorry it's you, it's your show, I didn't mean to say wait no no no it's not rude of you go ahead he said every 150 years you're going to get somebody who tries to insurrect and overthrow the government. every 150 years yeah 100, he said 100 to 150, and he said when they do you have to take the tyrants and you have to shed their blood.  anybody who tries to overthrow the government you have to shed their blood, and the blood of their lieutenants, on the tree of Liberty. isn't that interesting? what's the tree of Liberty oh God that's just a that's just a symbolic term? it's the state mhm yeah it's the race publica.  it's the Republic baby.  you got to save the Republic by sacrificing the Tyrant.   that's an ancient Greek idea, back when they had tyrants too who were women who could take you captive, they could drug you and they could cut your testicles off.  and they would sell you. yeah trafficking women, isn't that something?  yeah, how do you make unics? how do you make unics for the kingdom of heaven?  so that's what kind of pulled me out of the Christianity, was seeing a lot of the stuff that's actually there.  Yeah.   seeing some of the depictions of the darker side with the human trafficking and stuff like that and the sex trafficking? I would say the reality, right?  it's history you want to know the the truth, history means inquiry.  people dont, you think it meant like a set of events if you were a historian right?  I can't stand historians unless they can do the original languages, and most of them can't!  classical historians don't do the side that is the philology.   so why don't you take um John Marco Allegro seriously oh cuz I want nothing to do with any controversy, it's hookum.  It’s bunkum.  you don't want anything to do with controversy? Yeah, hahahaha.   I'm a purist, right?  I just want those sources, why do you think he's controversial? The sources keep getting me fired, and I just want the sources out there.  and he didn't read the sources? no! no, it's just it has to do with he spent it because he was reading the Dead Sea Scrolls right and he based everything that he was talking about on the dead sea scrolls yeah which I don't so to you it's irrelevant it is totally irrelevant was there any evidence of using psychedelic mushrooms in Antiquity yeah, I used to send Carl Ruck references every time I came across.  I was going through these formulae.  these ancient formula, and every time I would come across the mushrooms, I sent it to him and I did that because I just wanted to pound him, and say look! you were right, you were right, you were right.  cuz people shunned him, they blacklisted him.  right  you know? Yeah.  and it's not right.  he was there, bringing the knowledge.  of the use of drugs in Antiquity. right yeah what is so Superior about Greek compared to Hebrew or any of these other Aramaic, when was when did Aramaic? oh God who cares.  who cares! I cannot think of a less relevant, look in the libraries that we have from the ancient world, okay? if you just look at the libraries remember.   look at the Peaks what libraries are you talking about?  it's always Alexandria, big libraries, Alexandria, right? look at what's in those, now we don't have, we don't have anything, we do have one that just opened up in herculanum. they just scanned it, and the first word they scanned was purple.  oh yeah porphura purple was the first word yes it's one of my words that I brought to you in my little presentation.  so again my so so to you what makes Greek so Superior to any of these other languages or or Linguistics? it's able to convey and stretch.  it's able to build, essentially.  it's flexible.  so imagine a system, like half of English is based on Greek Roots.  right? imagine you've got words that are using Greek and Latin right? some of it is Latin, but that's only, oh God.  I'm going to step in here, but every, look there's two types of classissists, it's those who are Hellenists and those who study Latin.  and um, everybody knows what happens to the Hellenists, it attracts the most intelligent people.   and over time it turns their brains into mind expanding right this is the power you asked me what's so beautiful about Greek.   Greek is able to build.  let me give you an example.  the word to kiss is philo right we get all our “phil” words from that, philosophy is the love of wisdom right, philo means to kiss, so if I were a nice skirt wearing Roman I may walk up to you when I met you, and kiss you. you know? do you mind if I kiss you? that's philo.  Then there's Kata Philo.  Kata is an intensifier, so it takes it to the level of you and I French.  I meet you like making out yeah give you a nice big kiss now what about like is there is does it discern from one person just kissing versus them kissing together like both kissing each other? it changes, no it's the degree of amorousness that's involved.  like the degree that Jesus had with Judas.  right right right when he kissed Jesus we'll get we'll get there we'll get there I want to expand a little bit more I I want you to talk a little bit more about about Greek the language and uh how far it expands compared to other languages and how it expands just just the human mind.  so you have a set.  you have a set of prepositions that are used as prefixes.  and with those you can build Concepts.  and if you just look at the concepts alone, those are basically, when you're talking unique words, that's like the capacity of your language.  Greek has between, it's been estimated 250,000 to Upward I've seen upward of 500,000 um unique words um just to give you a way to compare it ancient Hebrew has about 8,000, right? so, it's Unique word, it can build its own vocabulary.  so that you can create or coin terms. you should, do you walk around coining terms? no okay there's the problem. Right?  if you start, and engage in this process of letting the Greek pump your brain, you'll start coining words.  you'll open up a capacity to engineer around you.  it's a superiority of the language.  it's a power.  it's overwhelming.   and it overwhelmed Antiquity.  Marcus Aurelius the emperor who's on a ton of drugs including opium, so much opium that Galen says I can't stand this guy keeps bothering me about his opium.  he just wants me to more and more you know? he's you know he's adjusting his medication up giving him a stronger dose giving Galen a stronger dose? or Galen's giving him a stronger dose? Giving Marcus Aurelius.  Galen is the physician, you know right right right he's the one with all the drug stuff and people are noticing so these drugs that they were using to expand their minds these psychotropics were responsible for the expansion of such a for were responsible for the the formation of this language right and for how deep and how the breadth of it? um I'd say it's fingerprints were all over it, and it's probably a major factor in the development of the language, something like that.  I wouldn't.  it's difficult.  it's just.  who developed the language? um you mean what people like when did it first come about and how long did how long did it take to expand to 250 to 500,000?  yeah let's take what modern Scholars would say, and just throw that out the window, okay?  what would modern Scholars say? they all sorts they'd hit and miss all over the place they' guess all sorts of you could probably have a range of 3,000 years they wouldn't know okay where does Greek actually come from it's that old Indo European bunkum right?  that stuff's not accurate the Greeks like… forget modern Linguistics… the Greeks, what did the Greeks themselves say in their own text? they said “we are the descendants of the Palaskoi. these are a group of the maurading calcalithic, uh so this 5,000 BC okay 5,000 BC called the Palaskoi.   the carriers of the purple.  yeah. this is where Greek came from? these are the antecedants of the Phoenecians.  those who carry the purple. okay what what is the purple? way back oh God, it's mirex squeezing I take a little Snail out of the water and he's in a shell and I squeeze out this stuff and process it.  there's a whole bunch of processing, and they turn it into a substance that we use in our religion, right?  in order to induce oistromania, right?  you can tell the girls who develop it because their fingers are stained with the purple. you can tell, because their lips are stained with the purple.  Yeah.  yeah, it's a, who knows what's in it, I mean I've heard people say “oh was it DMT?”, “is it blah blah blah”… okay whatever who know who knows and who cares at this point.  when do these people stop using drugs?  what is this Steve?  herculanum Scrolls, a 20-year-old journey to read the unreadable.  yeah this is what what Hillman was talking about um this is uh herculanum is that city that was destroyed was a sister city to Pompei and it has a lot of preserved Scrolls in it and so it's if you can unwrap these crusted little Scrolls you can read them and and uh there's one kid that did with AI he used an AI uh to help him out but yeah like what Hillman said it said purple, one of them did it was the first word that they could visibly read.   this Library they suspect is, I don't know they waffle so I don't know that's for the archaeologist they got to figure that out, but they say it's probably the Julian library from the Gins Julia.  so the Gins of Caesar himself right.  and it's destroyed in 79.  so it's going to have I can promise you, inside of this thing, I've already talked to the professor who did the scans oh really? yeah yeah he's at Kentucky okay Seals and he's a nice guy, really nice guy, and he said “no this is all going to be made public”, right?  Public Access.  so I've already got a team of people, shout out to the followers of Lady Babylon, who are ready to transcribe and translate.  I guarantee you, I promise you how how close do you think AI is to Translating Greek and how accurate do you think it could possibly get? I just had a conversation with Dr Ruck about that.  just a short one.  and it's going to happen. yeah even if they feed it the Lexicon, it depends on what they feed her, right?  like Mary nourished in the temple, did you know Mary was being fed by Angels? no yeah, she's got purple fingers.  in the apocryphal texts.  Yeah.  she's got purple fingers.  she's feeding from, so Mary was doing drugs from the Angels.   Yeah.   that's when they auctioned her off at 12.   a lot of this, can we go here yet?  or no.  

how far into the podcast are we we're at I would say 1:45 we can start to delve in um there's got to be a point where we're going to cut it for patreon but let's let's let's let's keep going and and then yeah I'll I'll mute some stuff if we have to and then if it's getting too uh too deep then we'll just jump to patreon so deep breath and I'm going to sound like a complete idiot when I'm trying to ask you this question but I'm I'm to the best of my knowledge at some point uh the Romans tried to get rid of all these texts and get rid of all of the the links to drugs right and they tried to rewrite they tried to rewrite history?  um the Romans, I wouldn't call those people Romans, I would say the Christians.  the Christians!? yeah yeah. who were the first Christians? you know who the first one was is the guy on the cross with the head of the ass.  that's the Jesus was the first Christian that's no that's the first depiction of Jesus the first depiction of Jesus yeah isn't that neat?  if you knew the ancient cult, you'd have ears to hear, and you'd know what that means.   the Metamorphoses would teach you everything.  the Transformations.  can you expand on that what was the first depiction of Jesus a dude on a cross very crude dude on a cross with a head of an ass, with the head of a donkey. yeah yeah.  you didn't know Nicander? no no Nicander was a priest, first century BC late second, first.   and at the time they were all super well educated. and this guy Nicander he's quoted by later authorities all over the place.  they're going to find Nicander in Herculaneum, if you watch. so at what point or was there a point that the drug use started to taper off yeah um, in the third and fourth, you start getting movements of Christianity, that is bursting in - Libanius talks about these - they're raids.  and the Christians burst in if anybody is using incense.  cuz one of the main ways that they're using drugs, is through fumigation.  right right? it's an active practice the first Bacchant Media, she does this, there's an account of it by Diodorus the Sicilian.  and diodora says that she filled a pot full of all the best choicest drugs and carried it through the town burning.  carried it through the town and fumigated everyone wow and everybody joined into this giant thing that we now call an orgy, right? when we say the rights, the cult rights, those are the orgies.  Right?  and you have the association with sex.  but not, I'm not going there. unless you'd like to well there was, orgies were a thing, they were just a thing that was always going on right back then in the no no? what do you think these people are lunatics?  there's just like a whole bunch of orgies? yeah that's what I thought no no this isn't I thought that there was orgy I thought I thought that there was there was orgy like in um in Athens yeah like in Greece in Greece there was always orgies but the problem was that there was like family members participating in the same like a mother and son yeah and then that that was looked down upon by the people in Rome that's what the Christians were doing that they started persecuting the Christians for, the Roman government. oh so the Christians were the one that were the incest doing the incest Roman not the Greeks no incest.  uh no uhuh it was Roman political control.  yeah, that exerted that influence they're the ones who were to save the children from sexy mommy, you know what I mean, okay?  um they were rounding up especially in Alexandria.   because that was a thing, they would get involved in sexual practices, the Christians they would felate the dude, who was their equivalent of a priest.  it was like a father.  yeah! he was the leader of the Christian coven, yeah.  it was this, there, and Romans were like “no, we stop at the incest” were they having orgies all the time? No.  but you have seasonal orgies.  Right?  seasonal um religious actions that you and I would classify as both orgy, as just a religious ritual, and a sexual rite.  Right?  there's a reason that those two words are from the same, you know, uh.  Emotion.  right right right same gut.  cuz sex was religion to them as well. Right, if you don't understand that, it's because you're not a no I understand I can understand it I can I can you did Buddhism stuff didn't you? you were, you probably, I don't have any of that, but isn't that an Eastern thing as well? I didn't do any Buddhism stuff you didn't? no no what gave you that idea I don't know previous misconception.  didn't no, it was somebody you were interviewing! was talking, oh it was, oh now, you did it. it was the guy that I hate that, okay look I don't hate this guy, but I hated his interview with you.  I thought he was being condescending.  why? um, you just thought he was being condescending you didn't disagree with anything he was saying you thought you didn't think what he was saying was wrong? right? no I thought a lot of what he's saying is wrong, yeah.  but he's not a text guy he doesn't work with those classical texts, so whenever, you have to be careful whenever somebody steps out there onto some classical concept like gnosticism.   hey buddy, if you can't go back and you can't read The Originals, don't don't bother saying anything about it.  my mentor Dr John Scarboro at the University of Wisconsin Madison, told me on the first day he said “it's great to have you as a student, and um, drop all your secondary sources.  cuz we're not about that.   we don't care what other people think.  we don't want you to tell me what your theories are”.  religious studies and I'm telling you this just as one person to another.   religious studies, this is why classical philologists laugh at religious studies.  why because they don't master the basics. don't tell me what Cicero said. don't tell me what Homer said. unless you can read what Homer said.  I used to tell my my seminarians that.  cuz I taught at Seminary.  who was Homer? who was Homer? he was a poet he was a bard, baby. from when? he sang the song 8th.  8th Century yeah 8th Century yeah there was there was there was uh there's three uh famous poets who you talk about who you take the sources from which is Homer, Ovid, and who else? uh yeah Avid not so much not so much Ovid yeah yeah no if I were if I only had my three choices.  I was going to make a soup of the best stuff - yeah I would say Homer and I would say Pindar.  Pindar.  yeah Pindar gives you that classical flavor.  and then I would say Escalus, as did Euripides. he had to give in, and Aristophanes play “the frogs” Dyanisis goes to the underworld remember the stage of the time is a place of ritual purification.  it's a place of ritual purification.  so Aristophanes pulls out Euripides and Escalus fighting about who's the best who's the better poet “in hell” if you will.  in hell yeah it's not really hell. they didn't really have a concept of “hell”.  it was the other side of the Dark Star.  the other side of the Dark Star… yeah which it's apparently the place from which they would pull all of this oracular information.  they said it was “the real” and we were “the image of it”.   go figure.  okay I don't know what that means.  I don't know either.  yeah maybe you got to be on the juice maybe you got to stick that stuff up your ass yeah yeah we got to put some purple in our butts to really understand what's going on yeah okay so the first depiction of Christ was a man being crucified with a donkey head correct and so so who was Jesus Christ yeah Christ is a title.  Christ is a title yeah Christ is a title.  yeah, and it's a pharmaceutical term. it's the Christ is a pharmaceutical term where you put in Greek yeah yes! And it means, there I have several examples of it to show you, but it means you can perform an Enchristation, they called it.  where I give you a drug, what usually what you'll see me do is I'll spit on the ground, yeah.  I'll spit on the ground and I'll use a combination of Earth and spittle, my own spittle, why am I spitting?  Did you know Jesus walked out and spit in people's faces? I thought you said Christ was just a… I didn't.. he was an actual person? uh.. in the text! who is he in the text who is yeah yeah that's what's most important and that text is going to show us history right? you can say what you want about the text as long as we're translating it accurately.   so what is the text, because the text is our evidence.  this is science man, I refuse to give over the discipline of Classics to the humanities people.  it needs to be taken by the scientists.  Linguistics is a science.  I'm not a linguist, I'm a classical philologist. what's the difference?  Linguists do General stuff, right? like how language acts under certain circumstances, or okay you know it's the basic mechanics Allegro was a linguist yeah there um classicists do just Greek, and then there are some that do Latin. okay yeah okay all right so tell me more about Christ yeah so it's a drug term and it means to be putting that thing in your eye. can I show you? so it's so to Christ or to Christen means to put drugs in your eyes originally yeah originally originally okay so how how did this get turned into the person everybody knows is Jesus Christ the fairy tale?  for example you talk about the age of the Apostles right? and everybody gets in their mind the images of bearded adult adult men right? people don't realize those are teenagers.  the apostles we're talking about the picture of like Jesus with the apostles, the Last Supper yeah.  notice they're all bearded men they're all bearded men, yeah yeah what happened because the original description he's constantly calling them children and they aren't in the original description who's constantly calling… so James and John are two of Jesus's boys yes he picked them up one day on a boat what do you mean boys like they're his homies? or like there his children. yeah what do they do that's the question. they end up naked together a lot.  with boys in tombs.  With Boys in tombs.  yeah, okay yeah multiple documents show that okay we have St Cyrel coming out of one of these graveyards with a bunch of Venom, it says, bleeding out his anus. and a couple of prostitutes with him. right? yeah yeah, every Heracles has his hilys what was uh yeah how common was prostitution in these cultures back then in the society how how was prostitution viewed and how how ubiquitous was prostitution and what was was it looked down upon was it or was it just a an accepted part of society kind of like drugs were oh God, it's the, we got to go to Cypress. we got to go to Cypress and worship Aphrodite. where once a year your wife has two choices: either she can shave her head and stay with you or she can go to the public forum and pick up one of the local Sailors and have sex with them all night.  not thinking about you. and come back the next day and be completely healed. yeah. that's the devotion that's the Devotion to the Aphrodite. remember the Romans are children of Venus. so this is embedded, this woman-centric sexy gorgeous goddess, this is part of their their medical system, it's part of their healing and so those you asked me about, prostitutes, um later those the Christians would call prostitutes, and that's where you and I get our term of prostitute from.  okay? and the negative you would never! these are priestesses of Aphrodite, you have made sacred the institution of prostitution.  why would the why would the wives have have to go have sex with Sailors and who were the sailors? I don't know sometime you get the need who were the sailors? look they come in and they go and it's a religious Festival if you have a problem with that that's between you and your wife.   now what kind of instruction does that give to the people to the men on Cyprus?  what kind of instruction, what do you learn from that kind of religious Festival where once a year your wife gets to go have intercourse with whomever she wants.   are the wives wanting to do this? Ha ha ha ha.   Yeah.  well you'd have to ask them when they're doing it, but since they all come back with smiles.   it says that they come back with smiles? no I made up they come back with smiles,  but they do it every year and you only have one choice, shave your head and enter, and why do they say shave your head? because that shows that you're in the sign of mourning, that you're mourning the loss of Adonis.  that you're mourning that, so you stay with your husband, you see the Loyalty. she's loyal to him even in death the women who keep their hair, that's Resurrection baby, right? they're out there, this is Easter.  yeah yeah, does that kid look exactly like you….? yeah, half sister and brothers. huh yeah, children of Aphrodite.  right sons of god. these are Romans, that's what the Romans called themselves. right? offspring of Aphrodite herself.  it's gorgeous.  it's interesting 

um okay so where were we going I don't know why I'm finding myself so lost in this conversation sometimes I don't sometimes I'm just getting lost I I don't have a a good enough understanding that and that's the problem I'm I'm having you on this podcast and you are have spent the last 30 years of your life reading these ancient Greek text and you know so much and I know so little about this so it's hard for me to leave this interview so I'm sorry for the people that are listening um but it is fascinating and um so let me ask you where do we go from here? yeah where do we go.  we bring we bring back that Purity. um that the Greeks saw in the Museum. right? Pythagoras when they asked him, “we're going to go find a colony, what do we do first” and he said “the first thing you do is build a temple to the Muse, bring back the museum” right?  you give people access they call it adamantine Freedom.   once you have access to these texts, you'll be surprised.  it'll open up a whole new world, that is the actual history.  history means inquiry.  Right?   it's not a linear chain of events it means inquiry.  and specifically Historia were the questions that you ask oracles.  and who are oracles?  uh some 14-year-old girl totally bombed on drugs.  singing! wow singing, yeah her words?  they're Divine.   if we follow them we're going to end up at democracy.  

I think it was in your book I think it was Plato who uh you said that he was attempting to or or maybe he wasn't attempting to but he thought of uh he thought of drugs and delusion and creativity and Mania all is the same thing right and I think you you used uh an analogy to uh the human the human soul being driven by two horses the the human soul was a chariot being pulled by two sources by two horses that were fed fed drugs basically what what you know whose horses those are?  those are the horses of the Gods baby right?  and what are the gods fed? Ambrosia.  Ambrosia.  you know who has the best ambrosia?  Ganemede.  you know who Ganemede is? I don't he's I'm sorry he's if I can if I may.   

um so Ganemede is is the lover boy of Zeus.  and what he does is he pours Zeus the nectar and in Priapian cult, Priapus is the god of the erection in Antiquity there's a God of erection yeah in the Met Museum um you can see they've got a thing up now of all the Priapaic stuff and all the, you know, when you're in a city and they.. you see a statue of Priapus, you rub the Phallus.   um if you're a young girl, you rub the phallus for the sake of, you know, good luck.      

you know you know it's a positive thing so you you'd see people doing this.  every Garden has a statue of Priapus in Rome.  can you find a statue oh there we go a statue oh my God blow up one of these photos blow up that one in the middle.  Priapus was okay this is according to Wikipedia okay Priapus was described in various sources as the son of Aphrodite by Dyonisis and the son of Dyonisis and Cheone as perhaps the father or son of Hermes or as the son of Zeus or Pan.  okay. so that thing oh wow go hang on go back real quick uh wait wait wait wait wait uh according to legend Hera cursed him with inconvenient impotence.  he could not sustain an erection when the time came for sexual intercourse inconvenient impotence I've read so he had a huge dick but he couldn't get it hard? I've read descriptions um in different ancient authors about the different drugs that are made in order to induce erection and to reduce it.  so yeah.  it's a drug thing, they're using.  look at that little guy there! you know the first thing baccus did when he came back from hell is he sat on a dildo over the grave of the guy who pointed in the direction of the cave where he had to go find the underworld. yeah, why are they doing that stuff with their oh… yeah why why were these people such sickos you you asked me? you were like are you sure you're not just focusing too much - look at this! yeah no it's I I guess it's hard to Escape right? yeah yeah the first depictions of Aphrodite are um she has a penis.  beautiful woman with a giant penis, coming right at you.  can you find this Steve? yeah find the early Aphrodite sculptures please.  early Aphrodite sculpturs yeah yeah yeah.  love it, it's good stuff, and they put stuff on those dildos.  you can find this in the Satyrakon right? and um that's how they're administering drugs.  it's how they're administering this, anally and vaginally?  yes and orally and ocular they have an ocular Administration and my person an ocular dildo? yeah no, not a, that's spreading the seed brother! Right?  don't you want to have an Enchristation? you know, somebody’s seed? um, the Ophites they called them in Antiquity, there it is they're a sect.. they're this is Aphrodite?

Look, she's lifting up her skirt what she got under their skirt?  oh oh my Lord what is that? now why why? this say it’s a statue of Aphroditos why not yeah why not huh yeah why not is that disturbing is that disturbing? it's not disturbing it's just interesting I'm wondering I'm like were they were they hyper obsessed with gender and why why were they so obsessed with sex they don't even have a word for homosexual I right yeah right so it's all a part of the they don't seem to have a problem so there was no there was no moral or ideal logical boundaries when it came to sexual intercourse obviously other or scientific I mean scientific other than the fact you can create Offspring right? one thing you have to say one thing you have to say and I always use this um whenever you hear a historian or classicist or anybody using generalities right? um that's you can tell that they're full of it. um different cultures we're talking about span of 2,000 years you know say a 1000 BC to a 1000 Anno Domini. you know, about 2,000 years. so in that time you've got a lot of different things going on.  Right?  Spartans do something totally different from what Greeks do right? Dorians do different things than Ionians do, right? where do we find this lady, what about the where do we find her tell me I don't remember where this one's from okay, but where is she originally, her form? you got to think of the great mother, baby.  you got to think of the Great mother.  there's a lot of castration going on, and the worship of the great mother, you know?  “I've seen a 10-year-old boy”, that's what Lucian says, a 10-year-old boy cut off his own testicles and this was during a religious Festival.  no don't worry the parents are there.  Lucian wrote this.  Yeah.  who was Lucian?  oh he's second century Anno Domini, he's a guy who's writing and he's talking about um the rights of Cebele okay and at these festivals you know you could go there too it's like spring break but except you're cutting your nuts off yeah!  and we have an account no Catalis 63 is an account of one of these boys who did this, cut his genitalia off in the next morning he was like:  “oh no”. Regret?  but “she takes the testicles”, says Lucian, “and you throw them into somebody's house and whoever whoever gets the testicles has to provide you with a woman's kit” what's a woman's kit oh, all the clothes that a woman needs to be sexy. why would they do that? cuz you cut your testicles off why would you want to be dress cut your testicles off to dress like a woman though cuz you're honoring the great mother you're honoring the great mother yeah! okay right everybody loves mom except for Nazis right? yeah I guess the Romans imported her cult when they were having a problem with Hannibal they were like “we're screwed, what do we do?” and they sent somebody out to the Oracle.  and the Oracle at Delphi told them she said you got to import the worship of the great mother. okay and so they did okay and they blew them, that's when they blew up into an Empire, this is like 205 BCE okay and after that, they just blew up. their controlers blew up, it's that ecstatic worship of the mother that's what requires the castration.   imagine how devoted you would have to be to the great mother to cut off your own testicles.  now he said:  sometimes tourists do get wrapped up on the whole festival and we'll be like, oh you know, they'll join in. (HAHAHA)  but that's right, remember you're on drugs and you're being whipped and stuff too, baby!  I mean this is intricate this is crazy stuff there's a there's a sadistic level to this oh it's gorgeous they open up these Roman Villas like the Villa of the Mysteries Herculanum and Pompei and stuff they open those things up and they've got all these frescos of gorgeous people with whips and naked people and you're like “what are they doing? what are these people doing?” it's crazy, no it's it's mental health, don't worry.   it purges the society, the Emperors know this.  yeah it gets out of hand and they they have a conspiracy in the 180s and it gets out of hand and they they end up killing, uh like, 2,000 women, and the way that they caught them was their drugs.   yeah what was the conspiracy? it was a bunch of wives of prominent Senators who were trying to restructure the government oh it was a coup attempted coup? right that's why they took it down yeah oh wow they made it illegal those Romans.

These are the Fresco whips of Pompei? yeah look at these I don't is this them? 

I'm trying to find it this is just what popped up yeah there you go what's going on down there? Thats a fashion show now one of them's getting beaten, baby! there's somebody right next to her with a whip.  if you had a time machine and you could go to any place in history where would where was the first place you would go? yeah I would go back to the Garden of Gethsemane. The Garden of Gethsemane it's the public park where Jesus was arrested you are obsessed with this I think you constantly talk about this this moment when Jesus was arrested yeah it's yeah it's why is that is this in the Bible? yes it is also dumb question how many versions of the modern Bible are there? um I don't know how many but there's I can think of at least 12 there and what's the difference between them all why why is there why are there so many versions? depends on the time they're translated and if you'll notice a lot of them follow the earlier authors right?  Bible scholars don't read anything outside of the Bible, so how good do you think their vocab is? how good do you think their translation skills are? right? that's the problem. so those translations are generally pretty bad and that's what I brought some examples of okay and this is in the garden actually that I brought these these slides for um okay and this is the Garden of Gethsemane and where are we? we're with Jesus, in the first.   and he's being arrested okay so let's give some context let's give some context this so so so who was Jesus and why and what is so good what is so great about him?  yeah Jesus is a guy who walked around with 12 children and um all the time and prostitutes and a group of prostitutes, no I'm just telling what the text says he was just a guy who walked around with prostitutes? prostitutes and children so what was so great about he called his disciples and he calls them his children.  Constantly.  right? remember remember God so he's a pimp! God blesses those who take care of the children.  right? okay yeah he takes care of these children he takes care of these children okay there is a female underage prostitute called the pydisca when Jesus Christ is in his trial, his followers won't admit they're his followers right? it's a whole “you're going to deny me” right? Jesus is all like “I'm gonna get freaking scandalized” right? And “you're going to deny me?” when he's in the garden and he gets caught mhm and those three Peter James and John, they're keeping watch, the text says, they're guarding at a distance while Jesus Takes the n4k3d boy that's been assigned to him (that's what the text says) like a slave.  so this the depiction of this event is only in one version of the Bible is that right is it uh Matthew? no it's in multiple but the kid is only in Mark only in Mark yeah okay and it's only like two sentences right? Stephen can you pull up can you pull up the passage? it's I've got it here oh you've got it there okay yeah for 1451 is that first slide I can pull up the passages and show different the the different versions and how it translates as well what passage is it Mark 14:51 1451 all right cool a young man wearing nothing but a linen garment was following Jesus When They seized him that's all it says yeah now look at the Greek.  oh yeah yeah and it says a young boy was assigned to him having wrapped his penis with a medicated bandage and they arrested him.  a medicated bandage is what it says, sindón (σινδόν) yeah.51 Καὶ νεανίσκος τις συνηκολούθει αὐτῷ περιβεβλημένος σινδόνα ἐπὶ γυμνοῦ, καὶ κρατοῦσιν αὐτόν· 

52 ὁ δὲ καταλιπὼν τὴν σινδόνα γυμνὸς ἔφυγεν.

• neanías (νεανίας) refers to a young man or a youth, typically someone in the later stages of adolescence or early adulthood.
• neanískos (νεανίσκος) refers to a younger boy, often in the context of a boy who is still in the early stages of adolescence or childhood.
• sunakolouthéō (συνακολουθέω) - to follow, accompany
• sindóna (σινδόνα): a linen cloth, medicated bandage
• epì gumnós (ἐπὶ γυμνός) - "Upon nakedness" or "on/over [something] naked."
  • epì (ἐπὶ): A preposition that can mean "on," "upon," "over," or "toward," depending on the case of the word it governs.
  • gumnós (γυμνός): An adjective meaning "naked" or "bare."
• paidiskē (παιδίσκη) - young female servant or slave, often under the authority of a household, in some contexts, it can carry implications of exploitation or servitude.

I've got the okay so I'm comparing yours to what this one says so visibility I can turn on Greek as well I would love to see how the uh this online Bible matches uh yours check out the is is okay so right here is that exactly what you're reading yeah that's what I'm reading okay which which one of those Greek words is uh penis wrapped in a medicated linen “epì gumnós” (ἐπὶ γυμνός) this is on the okay let's just start on the first line maybe we should should we go to his computer Steve yeah yeah I I'm punching it up that's it okay okay the first let's go to the first one the second word in is Neaniskos (νεανίσκος) and that is what we call a diminutive.  it's a little of something else and what is a Neanias? A Neanias (νεανίας) is a boy. okay yeah so this is a little boy. okay and they called paidiskē (παιδίσκη) female prostitutes who were underage, okay and when I say underage I don't mean did they Define underage down back then? yeah that's what I'm saying, it's not under 18, it's before puberty. so okay so that was their word for before puberty age was “puberty” they didn't set a year, right? okay got it right the translation here says young and was there any sort of moral boundaries when it came to sex or prostitution based on puberty pre-puberty? not from what I've seen okay yeah now generally in in different no in different civilizations you can still like in Athens you can still prosecute for somebody coercing, what you and I would say is underage, them before puberty yeah that's still you can get in trouble for that okay but it's not like it um it's not like there's compensation involved, because you know it's not like a crime like you and I consider a crime, it's more like a civil crime yeah okay like being punched right yeah you've damaged somebody so you can give them reparations for damaging it okay that's what you do.  but, the pedagogy in Antiquity paedagogue (παιδαγωγός), that person who raises / educates the children, right? that person? that's the Kentauron (κενταύρου) they called them.   The Centaur.  it's their word for pedarrest (παιδεραστία). which means what oh um uh sexual relations with children oh a pedophile yeah yeah.  yeah and Chiron (Χείρων) remember Chiron he's a centaur who is the master of Heracles (Ἡρακλῆς) and now you know why Heracles (Ἡρακλῆς) has his boy Hyllus (Ὕλλος) do you understand the sacred Mysteries pass from generation to generation.

• Chiron (Χείρων) is famously known as the wise and noble centaur, often associated with teaching and healing, and he served tutoring and mentoring prominent heroes in Greek mythology, including Achilles, Jason and Asclepius.  He represents a figure of wisdom, healing, and guidance, particularly in the upbringing and education of young heroes.   Heracles accidentally wounds Chiron with an arrow coated in the deadly venom of the Hydra
• paedagogue (παιδαγωγός) - pedagogy
• pedarrest (παιδεραστία) - pedophile

okay yeah so again what was so special about Jesus he was a guy who walked around with kids yeah Apostles Apostles yeah so um what was so special about him was he the only one doing that?  what was so - no - what was so special about like - oh and that's perfect, um no he's not.   it's called being a Lestes what is a Lestes and he was crucified between two of these.  a Lestes is defined - and I've got it on the next, let's see, oh here look: 

• sunakolouthéō (συνακολουθέω) - to follow, accompany

…this follows my presentation.  there you go okay perfect so this is what the boy that was with Jesus.  the naked boy. this is what he was with him, doing.  he's following him.  notice they use this term sunakolouthéō (συνακολουθέω)  and where where do you get this from? this image? oh this, thank you to the victorians from Oxford, who have given us this wonderful fantastic lexicon of ancient Greek.  okay in 1850s after that book that you just had was oh okay was written okay um and here it is.  and notice that it's using soldiers, it's using term for soldiers and slaves, right? so um, this kid is not just hanging out with Jesus, right?  we people have tried to explain this for a while, “what was the naked kid doing with Jesus”, right? okay, um anyway, let's go on to the next one.  double click there you go now hit the green button yep, blow it up, now look, 

• sindón (σινδόν): a linen cloth, medicated bandage
• bussines telamounes (βυσσινής τελαμώνης): Used for mummies and surgeons bandages
  • Βυσσινής means "of fine linen"
  • τελαμώνης could be interpreted as "supportive”
• gumnós (γυμνός): Naked, bare, uncovered
• epi gumnos (ἐπί γυμνός): on the naked body

This is what the kid has wrapped on his gumnos (γυμνός).  and you say “what's gumnos”? uh gumnos fine cloth usually linen yeah yeah fine cloth.  look at the second line, it says bussines telamounes, right? so they're wrapping things in this fine cloth, right?  Used for mummies and surgeons bandages umhm, and bandages and that's where I get it on my end when I'm reading the medical authors they're all saying that you impregnate linen with drugs that you're going to treat the wound with, right? This kind of makes sense. you impregnate linen with drugs to treat wounds yeah okay makes sense? this is the original text and this right here is the translation that we have right now which is punch it up for people uh but a nothing but a linen garment yeah notice how they took it from a bandage and turned it into who did this who's responsible for this? crappy translators, people who do not work with the Greek if you bring up the next one is this an accident or is this intentional? no these translations intentional stupidity are they intentionally leaving this this st out of the Bible?** Because it’s.. no it's bad training oh it's just bad training okay yeah there we go 

• bussinos (βυσσινός): "made of fine linen" or "made of purple-dyed fabric."
• porphurous (πορφυρούς): "purple" or "purple-dyed".  purple dye made from mollusks, particularly the murex snail, used in antiquity to produce rich purple-colored fabrics.

now watch this one okay so that last one had bussinos (βυσσινός) on it.  well what is the bussinos? it's fine linen bandage right? they give you at the top, but then look at the reference on the second line that's Euripides Bacchae, okay? so this is something that they're using within some kind of religious ritual and look at number two at the bottom.  Roman numeral number two.   Porphurous (πορφυρούς). that's Hesikious. and who's Hesikious is a sexy lexicographer from the fourth and fifth who comes in and he has access to these ancient Greek lexicography texts right? so before anybody was having any kind of substantial literature, the Greeks were already at the level, and these are ancient Greeks, they're already at the level of creating a language that is so highly specialized we're still trying to translate it.  look at porphureos (πορφυρeος) here right? 

• porphurous (πορφυρούς): "purple" or "purple-dyed".  purple dye made from mollusks, particularly the murex snail, used in antiquity to produce rich purple-colored fabrics.
• stuphein (στυφαίν) - from the Greek root στυφαίνω, which means "to press" or "to knead"
• mordant – refers to a substance that helps fix dye to a fabric or material (some chemical like alum)

and you see the different dialects that you get from it at the top? you got it in Attic and you got it in Aeolian and they got some Sappho there.  we look at number 1 right has something you do with the sea, number 2 blood gushing the purple numeral II the purple of purple of stuff, cloths, Etc. yeah Etc it's a dye right? look at number 3 purple clad. you can have the purple, people right walking around with their purple.  and then um number 4 purple spots but then number 5 is a specific and then number 6 oh mordant, there it is, it's that thing that sets. right? the purple.  it's the chemical that we're going to be using within the rite to make what is called “The Burning purple” and that comes from the Virgin.  it comes from the Virgin yeah right. Mary's fingers were covered with purple. and when her Midwife came in to check her, because that's what midwives do, all this stuff by the way is coming from medicine.  it's coming from women's medicine, yeah.  that's where all the science is.  and when the Midwife came in to check her to check Mary she palpated her.  how'd she do that?  says she stuck her two fingers in her vagina.  and um that's how that's what they do when they're when someone's pregnant to check how dilated their cervix is or whatever yeah you do the same thing with cows right?  I guess I know never fingered a cow no well here she fingered her and then she… she she had purple fingers and those purple Fingers burned, right?  it says the apocryphal text say it burned her finger.  the midwife's finger. okay? where are we getting Baptists from? and you say wait a minute this thing is jumping all over, no we're still talking about the purple.  look at this 

• baphe - dye
• porphura (πορφυρα) - purple

this is the word baphe dipping of red hot iron in water hence temper or edge of a blade or tool produced thereby yeah yeah yeah now look at number 2:  dye.   and the source there is Theophrastus blood, dye of blood yeah that's the source there is Theophrastus and it's the Historia Plantarum he was a student of Aristotle and he's the first botanist he's considered the, he wasn't the first botanist, but he was considered to be the father of botany. and if you look at the word that follows Theophrastus it's porphura (πορφυρα) which is just the word we got out of Herculanum.  and it says porphura baphe.  the baptism is a baptism into the purple.  Okay?  we didn't leave the cult, we're still in the cult, right? Baptists you know what Baptists carry?  they carry drugs yeah they carry drugs, everybody's carrying drugs. oh and by the way, and the Roman Market is an open market.  the Roman Market is an open market yeah, you can buy anything.  you can buy Venom from North Africa in the Roman Market make a concoction, and it'll knock you down. and we know this because they have recipes, and doctors writing about.  what do you do when you come across somebody, and he's had too much Hemlock? the first time I read that, I was like wait a minute, too much Hemlock that's what Socrates was killed with right? yeah but this is a dude who just they use small amounts to trip balls he said he said he'll be walking on all fours and bleeting like a sheep God yeah and what do you do you got to give him an antidote. and that's where I was talking before about the Rope that's in the cave, that's guiding us through the cave, is the science.   they have come through, the Romans have come through a world that was a Bronze Age Renaissance of drugs.  dotes and antidotes, they call it. Christs and anti Christs. oh yeah yeah they are pharmacological terms and they're using them that way.  and when you get baptized, this is what you're being baptized into.  it's the only way to bring eternal life.  and you say wait a minute, what, I thought… cuz you're thinking the wrong eternal life.  there's no phrase in the New Testament that says eternal life.  they all say Ionic life.  Ionic life uhhuh which what does that mean? it's outside the time stream, that's how they describe it.  Pythagoras said it has 360°.  yeah, so they're talking about some sort of DMT realm maybe I don't know quantum physics I don't understand it because they're also talking about the Dark Star.   the stuff is all accessible across the Dark Star.  so I don't know what that means but I know that you have to join a lot of drugs and a lot of sexual Behavior.  where does Bacchus always lead? Bacchus always leads us to Aphrodite.  why is that?  because she is life.  there's a sacred name of Rome that is secret.  and I give everybody on my channel a hard time to derive the sacred name.  they can't derive the sacred name.  if you know this, this is what they said Antiquity don't blame me, they said if you knew the sacred name of Rome you can control her power. if you knew the sacred name of Rome you could control her power yeah yeah. yeah, and that name is the operation of the mystery.  the name is an operation of a mystery yeah it's THE operation. It is that resurrection of the Kore.  That's why in the, which they did at Eleusis every year, right which is is why you have the very same kind of worship that's spreading through the oracles.  the oracles are spreading the power of that Elusinian, and they call it a purification. when you can put your population through an act that brings them healing, they're better citizens. wow yeah wow yeah. now you understand why they call the temple. priestesses prostitutes.  this is some wild st man** uh priestess means prostitutes.  well that's what the later Christians call them.  you know why they did now, because this is the activity they're doing.   they're bringing that healing. right? there's 20,000 I think it was 20 or 22,000 that's celebrate during the uh Bona Dea the Romans called it 

I mean it's it's all this is all making a lot more sense to me now I mean it's it's when you're talking about the creation of democracy and and saving Humanity from itself and trying to eliminate all the negative influences of of ancient oligarchs or tyrants and trying to create a just and fair Society that's essentially what what they did and and the use of of drugs to to have an understanding of this and to create this sort of world that would that is the best way I mean even in modern times when you hear people talking about uh psychedelic experiences and or you know experimenting with things like DMT or or whatever it is um there are many modern descriptions of the same thing you're sort of talking about I mean even like if you talk like if if if you wanted the best most just and fair uncorrupted version of government today you would want the president of the United States to trip to be tripping on mushrooms right um and not be what it is today not not be this this Empire that is controlled by money and influence and Corruption and and lobbyists and all this stuff so but the problem with it is the way that we look at the way we look at at it today is if you have all the people like when it going back to democracy if you have all of these people 10% of your population making the decisions and debating the decisions you're never going to become the number one Empire yeah you're not going to be able to control other Empires because you're only worrying about yourself yeah you're not creating Wars and trying to influence the rest of the world and trying to trying to have the strangle hold on everyone else you're just worrying about your society and being good and the downside of that is you become vulnerable to the outside world or to an Insurrection.  which is which is what happened to the Romans and they're screaming, the emperor Julian is like oh my God “do not let the Christians teach” and you know today that's like “what? oh that's so terrible” and no he says “they will pull down your government right around your ears, and they'll set up something that's horrific in its place” sure enough they did they killed him though, within a few years. he was dead by a Christian soldier who speared him in the back.  yeah yeah it's the attempt to extinguish that's why I'm so grateful for the Herculanum Scrolls.  because every time, this is the largest, the only intact library that we have from the ancient world.  and it is the largest collection it will have completely new Authors.  it will have authors that we know exists, but we didn't have that copy of that play.  It'll have those too.  and every time time in history there is, I bring you great news, because every time in history that we have a Enlightenment, it's based upon a Resurgence of that classical Muse.  it's based upon HER.  and to call that forward I predict, that this thing is potentially able to create another Renaissance.  and I hope people are aware that it's out there.  and it has silver, it has the purple written on it right there.  yeah exactly.  Exactly.  so so these translations that you've just pulled up what does this have to do with or what does this tell you about the scene of Jesus in the park that's exactly what this verse says right here

it says can you zoom in on that a little bit yeah can we there you go, there you go, you just did it yeah and so he's what happened? so Jesus is there, and it says the kid dropped the bandage, and ran off naked.  that's what exactly what that says.  Ok. The kid dropped the bandage and ran off naked okay yeah so and it says specifically in previous in 51 that it was epi gumnos and epi gumnos is “on his private parts” an epi gumna which is the bandage that's soaked in drugs the sindon that's on there, right? why, why is Jesus with the kid? remember? when he first walks in the garden, he falls over, he stumbles over, and he’s ahhhh! He’s in pain, he's going through the exact same symptoms that doctors will describe. Jesus is? of the drug users. yeah! it's in this chapter. it's in Mark 14, yeah. so he's tripping it says that he's exceptionally fearful. right? so it looks like he's in some kind of psychotic fear and he's screaming about “take it” and don't, you know “don't let me do it” and he's with this kid, he's with this kid at the time, right? and he ends up with stuff on his face.  stuff that is like big drops of porphuron we’re talking about bodily fluids? blood is how it's typically, no that's how it's translated, it's not the blood that he's got, it's purple.  and he's got an antidote from the kid’s s3m3n. that that's the galane, is the kid’s s3m3n.  Heracles has to have Hilus, he has to have his boy.  Zeus has to have Ganemede on the Piapaic side they called it Ganemedes rectum.   and the question is, do you drink from Ganemedes rectum? I don't well that's why you're not in charge.  yeah probably. all right bring me back down to earth here what's what's going on in the park again so so Jesus has um the purple on his face yeah he's got the purple on his face Jesus is Jesus is is having some sort of a psychotic fit right he's having he's having some kind of overwhelming emotional state it's hitting him so hard he's falling on the ground so he's got some kind, he's got something onboard that's causing him to stumble, and it's 4:00 a.m. in the morning yeah it's 4:00 a.m. yeah yeah and he's got and and who who he just came from the who wrote this by the way party with the kids he just came from did one of the cops write this one of the cops that arrested him? no this is Mark,yeah.  Mark was there well no mark is telling you the things that the secret things that you're not supposed to know. so how does Mark know if he wasn't there yeah well I don't care if he does or doesn't know, the fact is he's saying them. okay and that's what's scary well how do we know Mark didn't have an axe to grind against Jesus he want to make Jesus look like a like a bad guy and make him look like a weirdo or a crazy person? he could maybe I don't know for all I know right oh that's why I say we have to stick with exactly what the sources say the point is that this is what, take it for what it's worth, this is what Mark said yeah and he said and Mark was not there uh, no. it's Peter James and John, and the naked kid. okay yeah yeah now Mark uh excuse me where did Jesus come from before this?  in the scene he came from, the place where he was with all the kids, in the upper room. that's where they came from, right? in what room? in the upper room.  it's just the way to refer to the place, look it was shady, right? this is part of what the cops have on him, right?  he sent out couple of his boys to go scout out a place, and when he did he told him “hey you're going to come to this guy and he's standing there, and he's doing this” and you got to approach him and say “Jesus's boys, where do we need a place for Jesus to celebrate?” and he says “take him in here and he finds a guy and they take him up they get a shady back room business” remember what does Jesus do with his boys? we all know this, that's why we're a crowd, and we're angry, and we want Jesus crucified.  now you understand why there was a freaking crowd there, yeah a little bit brutal with them, weren't they?  well yeah they had good reason to be.  he was with those 12 underage kids in that room washing feet and you got to get naked when you wash feet, have you ever washed somebody's feet naked? not that I can recall how about a 12-year-old boy.  no absolutely not now why wouldn't you? do you have some kind of problem with Jesus? apparently I do yeah okay all right that's too bad because he ends up in the garden after this with the three older ones and he says “keep guard” while he takes the young kid off to the middle of the garden.  in the meantime, they're falling asleep while Jesus is rolling around in agony and doing what he's got to do, to get for the galane, from the boy.   and that's the Mastery here, the boy has some kind of antidote. Galen describes prepubertal ejaculation, yeah it's not milky, Galen describes this.  yeah as long with the prebubertal girls um exidate from their breast, you can milk.  you didn't know you could? I did not know that okay well we can, medically.  probably has antibodies in it to whatever the Venoms they're using.  cuz these same girls, you cut them, and this stuff you cut them and you wrap them with the snake venom.   and that's why we all hold up serpent, right?  we all know it, you see my tattoo right?  it doesn't say it was on a pole.  show me the tatto you're talking about says it was on a tattoo, I'm just waxing poetic, I'm sorry. okay so gayen talks about this pre pubital bodily fluids that boys and girls create and he talks about this being used as an antidote to snake venom specifically?  it's the galane, it's a Greek term that means “the calm after the storm”, galane.  But what is the calm after the storm supposed to mean though? because um, okay remember how Jesus was screaming on the cross? I mean I guess yeah yeah you don't have to scream while you're on the cross right, you don't have to. all right.  but he Not only was a screamer, he was a dier early. he didn't die of the crucifixion, Jesus Christ did not die of a crucifixion, he screams out and then boom he's gone. and so it says the soldiers are surprised, they reported to Pilot.  like, “he died early bro”. Nonnus tells us that that vinegar that they offered to Jesus on the cross and the sponge, that that was an an-ti-doton, to the dipsas the dipsas is the horned Viper of North Africa, and it's venom makes you really thirsty.  They were trying to give him an antidote, his followers all his prostitutes, that were around the cross.  they were trying to give him an antidote, he didn't get it, and he overdosed. he's dead that's it.  how did they administer the snake venom?  oh that's the rectum brother. while he was on the cross? no no.  oh no, he had had it already, by the time when he shows up in the garden and he's got it on his face.  oh so he had already been given this, he gave himself the snake venom? that's why he's going through the gyrations and ahhhh! feeling bad, he's already going through it.  it was the boy’s s3m3n that was the antidote to it is the antidote and he says he says let this cup pass. what is that cup, in Apocalypse the Revelation? yes it says that cup is borne up by that theriac, by that galene.   they're using the same, it's one rite, they're using the same drugs in the apocalypse, and the great enemy of God is that lady's cup which is full of pornea.  

• Porneía (πορνεία) - Sexual immorality or illicit sexual behavior. Derived from πόρνη (pórnē), meaning "prostitute" or "harlot," and related to πέρνημι (pérnēmi), meaning "to sell." commodification of sex or behaviors tied to it.   Like producing the antidote / antichrist (antivenom) from the 12 disciples.

you have to drink the boy's pornea to survive, in order to survive. but why why did he get this why did he take the snake venom in the first place cuz he was a Christ.  so he was just so he he he overdosed so he overdosed how are you going to prophesae? he accidentally took too much is what you're saying no I don't think he took too much, I don't think he got an antidote!  the texts are not saying he just didn't get an antidote yeah I think that's why Nonnas says they were attempting that sponge, which by the way Nonnus is corroborated by the geoponika, the geoponika is a Byzantine farmer’s manual for lack of a better term, and in it it says, the vinegar, the oxus, that is the remedy, that's the common term for the remedy of the dipsas snake, right?  so it's the chemical knowledge is all there they were just using it, you know.  and it's, yeah. yeah. um Heracles likes it in the eyes though, that's the thing. but how much later did he die from that from that moment in the park how much time passed before he was crucified yeah um is it midday? isn't it midday when's he shout out? I think it's a during an eclipse? cuz there was like the last supper right? yeah during the eclipse.  yeah, no it's later, right.  last supper was the party all night, naked, right?  it says specifically Jesus was naked with his paedea, with his boys, and he's always calling them boys, he calls them “my little ones”.   I've got some verses here where he calls them my little ones, right? so why is he, what is he doing? he's perpetuating a cult.  that is a practical business, is a if it's illegitimate because it's prosecuted by the government. and Julius Caesar was one of the people who started cracking the back of it.  cuz they kidnapped him, they were going to sell him off, and he got a ransom, and came back and killed them all. wow crucified them! so I'm surprised it took the snake venom so long to kill him yeah I mean what that mean that was so it was more than 24 hours from when he was crucified from when he was found in the park? no he would have gotten it so he went to the party with the boys at night so that's when he they would have done the administration of the flesh and the blood okay yeah and it was the next day he was crucified remember the Ophites still fellate for the sacred communion.  Roman soldiers do too, yeah.  so the sacred communion mithraic yeah s3m3n was ejaculation your seed, your seed makes me high.  so they were, so Not only was this stuff being used as an antidote they were also mixing it with other stuff to get high it's poly Pharmacy it's a ton of plants and animal substances.  some of them I laugh at, I'm like God gee how did they figure that out, no idea, but didn't you didn't you mention that that somehow um the boy or or either animals or humans were used to endogenously create drugs?  they tested on roosters, they tested drugs on roosters, and they would give them poisons and then feed them the antidote, caused them to swallow the antidote and to see if that - you know Galen writes about that - he says you can do it on people too. and they do. so were they were they giving the poisons to these people and then assuming that these people would their immune system would react in a certain way and they could pull out like for lack of a better term like the antibodies that were using to fight the poison and use that to put into other people?  I think that's what's happening when they talk about breast milk.  these priestesses will give off a breast milk, they cut their arms and they would give themselves drugs, and they give themselves the Venom over time in a wrap.  and then they and their body would start fighting against it and then they would use they would pull out the breast milk and use that as an antivenom as an antivenom yeah essentially or an antichrist it's not really a antivenom either it's a it is a balancing drug, right? so you're not stopping the Venom you're basically, the Physicians say you're stopping the negative symptoms, oh wow yeah poly Pharmacy. wow yeah yeah good stuff let's get some Hemlock and some Henbane some Aconites and really poisonous stuff and then do you think that their Pharmaceutical knowledge and their drug knowledge if we understood all of that today, do you think it it would it would Advance our knowledge currently in science and pharmaceuticals and the treatments of illnesses and disease? yeah undoubtedly.  and I tell people just that.  they're thinking of making the human body the producer of the drug, right?  your body becomes, they're not thinking “okay this person is depressed therefore I'm going to hit him with this drug”, right?  “this one drug see what happens to them and watch them” you know what I mean “they want to kill themselves” oh that's not going to work, right?  that's not what they're doing, they're looking at using multiple drugs to basically create the potential that the human body has to make its own communion.  to be a source of Health, right? sacred name of Rome right is that Health, it is that power, it is that extended capacity, it's why we insist that the vessels are virgins. yeah. they direct us. it's why we insist that the vessels are virgins yeah what do you mean by that? yeah it's why that they have to be in a certain physical state because the person becomes the vehicle of the drug.  the cup is full of her pornea, that's her ejaculate.  we are talking about the communion, that is the ejaculate of a virgin, right?  an oracular virgin.  right yeah, and when I say virgin, I mean the kind that they put up on the statues, right? remember Athena, ah-tha-na, that's the exact image, the adalon, that they're creating.  is Athena, the Virgin, holy virgin. you don't worship the holy virgin?  do I? Yeah hahaha, what is your religion? I'm not really religious yeah I didn't think so, it's a bunch of crap isn't it?   I don't know yeah I'm not according to you! no according to you it's uh it's way more than I thought it was um so so why why in the Bible do they explain that the guys who were being crucified next to Jesus were just thieves yeah, that's how they translate it.  that's how they translate lestes, and again this is not on purpose.  they just accidentally did this how are you going to translate it but isn't it convenient that they they isn't it convenient for them that they made they did they left all this out oh, you are right on top of it, detective.  no, seriously, write your dissertation now. why why would you choose between a kid having a linen garment and a bandage on his private parts, and why would you choose to present Jesus in a way that's not accurate to the to the sources?  I'm not saying to anybody's interpretation, there's no room for interpretation here, it's just what are the sources saying?  he's a lestes which is a pimp which is basically a child trafficker yeah which was looked down upon which was frowned upon back then because it's an active organized crime. but a civil crime you've got boys of Galilee, and those boys of Galilee they're they're entrenched in the but didn't you didn't you say that when when the when the people approached Jesus in the park you call them cops they were like ancient cops.  did they have uh chest cams no but they had big weapons. he notes it, and I have that and he said and and according to Matthew the first thing he said is I am not a lestes or a child trafficker right he said I'm not a lestes man.  he says, “why did you come out here, why did you come out here with all your heavy weapons like I'm a lestes” right right right? so well maybe he wasn't maybe he was just trying to get the antidote well it could be but he's making a big deal about it right, for some reason.  and he's standing there right next to contextually, right next to a n4ked kid.  so, you know maybe he's trying to give an answer for why there's a naked kid with him in a public park at 4:00 a.m. that if I'm his lawyer that's what I'm going to say yeah exactly exactly yes.  more importantly, what's that what's that n4k3d kid actually doing.  and I think that's the that's the question, what do you think the evidence only shows that he could be one of these boy prostitutes who's providing the people who are in The Cult with the galane, okay with the thing that’s going to balance whatever it is that Jesus has taken that's put him into a state.   and, it doesn't work and he ends up getting, he ends up dying on the cross, and you know, if you notice in the resurrection, we just had Easter, you know did anybody notice it's another boy we just had Easter and we just had an eclipse yeah another boy with Jesus in the Tomb.  don't you remember?  no yes I never read the Bible yeah oh you didn't! that's right! oh we got to start reading the Bible should I read it? yeah I think you should which version should I read? the Greek version.  yeah yeah come to my class come to my class I'll have you 20 weeks 20 weeks I'll have you with just enough to be dangerous 20 weeks? yeah well no most of my students are how do I go to your class 40 is it online? 40 weeks do i have to show up to a university I'm working for a I'm working for a Tutoring company um because once you've been ejected, turns out, from a university, you're pretty much, you're ronin from that point on.   and I had people that I applied for jobs they like “why would you want to have this job, do you just want to be around young people?   you know what I mean” I'm like skip you!  show me the show me the sources, my students Love it.  my last semester, my last semester I had 90 some students petition the administration to take my class that was capped at 30.  Right?  they had to form a petition that they wanted it.  for a small liberal arts university that's that's not bad. you know, 100 people is a big audience I had 270, 350, at University of Wisconsin, when I taught history of medicine.  but as a grad student and I can very proudly say I'm the only grad student to ever teach the level of a professor at the University of Wisconsin, I taught a whole course on medical history and medical terminology. wow yeah it was a lot of fun they wanted they wanted know the dirty stuff though, it's the dirty stuff you got to bring out, why do you you you have to bring it out? yeah you do, you got to have women having abortions, how do you get an abortion in Antiquity?  how chemical.  they got all sorts of The Midwives they have all sorts of, you know, you can regulate your own.  wouldn't it be cool if you were a woman, and you could regulate your own menstruation? yeah we do that now right? yeah it's we have like IUDs we have these like little metal prongs no I mean but chemically chemically so that you yeah those things have chemicals on them you could turn up your flow and turn down your flow mhm right, dial it. mhm yeah why would you want to be doing that, because there's a point of ecstasy, people don't realize in Antiquity, in a woman's period there's a point where she is close to the gods.  there's an eclipse.  yeah there's an eclipse and when you have the eclipse you have the power of that Moon blocking that sun.  is that why women uh when uh right before they have their period they get so horny?  is it because of Aphrodite they would say and my answer would be yes.  okay yeah that's the eclipse and you have to no that's the pre- eclipse and you have to, right? and you have to channel that within a woman's being in order to be a proper mate yeah you have to channel that within a woman's being yeah you got be a proper mate? you got to make her ovulate.  it's all about that production, right? even the Scythian women who hunt men, the only reason they gave them the Satyrion was to cause them to be able to ejaculate.  cuz they're already paralyzed, can you imagine being paralyzed and ejaculated after someone has given you a drug that induces psychosis.  they called it the pan, the fury, the fear.  so they've put you in a state of psychotic fear, and they've given you a drug that gives you an erection, and they manually bring you to orgasm.  for what?  yeah for what that's got to be a state to be, I mean if you could take somebody there.  is that what caused the enlightenment?  was it people sitting around, you know what I mean.  was it people sitting around who followed.  you got the Templars.  Templars are licking taint and anus. I mean taint and penis head.  yeah they're looking at them? licking, licking them. yeah initiates lick. there's a purple cross on the bottom of that taint where they give the medicine drizzles out and those initiates, that's where they start to get exposed to it.  and you can do it, they said in the, in the papers that they're, the court papers so to speak.  the investigation papers.  you can, the Templars were, it's one of the reasons they were persecuted so heavily, is because they were having them lick their taint, or they could also lick the penis itself, and get that purple stain. what what sort of push back or backlash have you gotten from uh the mainstream academic institutions for talking about all this stuff none none none no um it's better to ignore. Right?  it takes him, a professor from Brown told me it'll take him 10 years “to catch up with your research” and they're just didn't happen with the church didn't the didn't the church or something come make a statement about you specifically I was investigated for demon possession by the Catholic Church you were investigated by the Catholic church when for when I worked for the St Mary's University really and how did you find out about this I had a monsignor come to me and say “hey I've been to uh” he was one of my students right? um keeping tabs on everything and learning Greek, he got to learn Greek in the process.  so I hope he kept it up to this day um he told me he said “I've been to five meetings about you” what? I couldn't help but laugh you know what I mean at this time my professor is coming to me going “you're going to get fired” “you're going to get fired” and “oh by the way we support what you're doing but we're not going to put our asses out there” right?  I thought well “cowards but whatever” I had to stay true to the sources, so I did. so the Catholic Church well look, a student on campus claimed that she woke up at 4:35 in the morning mhm um and that I um was floating, I floated through the door of her dorm, and hovered over her roommate, and had intercourse with her roommate as I hovered over her bed, and then she woke up, and made a noise, and um I extended my hand and paralyzed her. now this student was released from School due to the Mania.  it was a mental discharge this was one of your students no she wasn't one of my students, she was one of the students that was working on the play The Medea that I was the contracted advisor for okay and the student that I allegedly hovered over and made Cosmic Love to was the lead role as the younger form.  we had two forms, we had a younger: the one that killed her brother;  and then an older form.  Yeah.  and so they had a hearing they had an inquiry so so who did she tell this to, who did she tell the story to, uh Administration and then and then and how did the Catholic Church get involved cath church had an inquiry and the bishop had to come and sit, I'm sure it was hilarious right? I had a group of people before the inquiry out a group of people come to me and say I was like “who are these people in my office” and they said “we know who you are and we know what you're doing and the demons that you're working with” and I was like “excuse me” right? “excuse me” um and then there was the inquiry, the formal inquiry and it was two I'm told it was two charges:  number one was demon possession which personally I think that's pretty cool that's pretty metal no that is yeah.  number two I was opening portals.  to were? I don't know, but do you think I would be a Catholic. can you find this is this is this published anywhere? yeah it is I can find now I got to finish those, so people can have a little sympathy for me, I was fired after the production of the Medea it was wildly successful.  people said it was the best thing they ever produced, right? but I had I had furies, choruses of Catholic University students, pointing dildos what? yes they said they wanted it accurate so we brought in the Priapus we brought in what they call the phascitum, it’s a roman implement, it's a dildo!  and when you point it at somebody like a priest, Who's involved in doing naughty things to Children, you are throwing off from the stage that corruption, you're purifying your audience.   and it was quite successful.  it succeeded to the point um that you know the monsenor that I knew, I probably shouldn't put his, no he's a big guy, um he said, look you know he brought up the book I had just published a book that was about um “ritual child rape in the early church” and apparently that was what was making all the hullabaloo.  the story of me flying through the air and and all of that just kind of added an atmosphere of, it was like religious frenzy, and the monsenor just explained it to me the Charismatic Wing was quite active in that area, and he didn't like the way/direction it was going and I just happened to be one of their targets.  so that's why you know, they they did what they did, and you know once you've been ejected you can't go back, there's no way.  I'm Ronin now so what I do is I I use the same skill what now was the word you used? Ronin a Japanese Samurai who's lost his Lord.  he's got no protection of the institution, nothing like that, yeah.      

what is this okay this is an article all right so I mean I'm sure Hillman can put more fired over the fallace adjunct at St Mary's University of Minnesota says his contract wasn't renewed and he was fired from a custodial job on campus due to a play prop all right this is now get this during the week this is it Hillman was contracted by the Catholic University this fall to translate Seneca’s version of Medea a story largely about a woman's revenge on a husband who's abandoned her for a more politically advantageous marriage but Hillman, technically the Productions playwright, also highlighted Medea’s undertones about greed and suggested that the cast members deliver admonishing lines about corporate greed while pointing fasina at the audiences used in the ancient world in certain rights and to ward off evil.  facina are supposed are supposed to embody the devina power of the phalus in that Spirit.  the props being prepared for the show looked distinctively like erect penises. one of the props pictured at the right there was one that was 6 feet long that I, They carried in procession into the, into the performance, now remember these are sold out too.  all of our performances were totally sold out. really yeah yeah and they said it was the best, it was the best thing that the theater Department ever had, ever produced.  yeah so when I was fired after this, people were like what's going on? and when I was fired the American professors, it's like a union the National Association of University professors sent a couple of people out to inquire about my termination and they ruled that I was improperly terminated and that this was not you know this was just because of what I was teaching it had nothing to do with anything else.  so I thought that was, I thought that was nice, that the AAUP would come out and do that.  they had the international one do the same thing. there's an article on fire which is the freedom for free speech on campus. and the act of the university, St Mary's University firing me, got them put on the top 10 list of bad places for free speech.  

really? yeah yeah the USA Today is the one that publishes it. can you find that?  yeah it's got to be on there and um they made the top 10 list because of what they did to me wow no way so and there's a quite an article they had me in a place where I had to even work um and I didn't mind cuz I don't mind doing dirty jobs, but I used to claan toilets. I used to clean toilets, cuz the professor salary they paid me was not enough to feed my children. yeah, so you can see why the monsenior was like okay. how did that how did that um affect you personally after this all happened? uh you know it shut off my, you know, look every time something happens, has happened in in my life, it's helped to build, to forge, my path ahead. when my head of my department told me the Romans wouldn't do such a thing as take drugs he said why would they do it back what why would they do that back then when we don't do it today right something to that effect? she said they just wouldn't do such a thing, they just wouldn't do such a thing. Right?  when she said that, I realized okay I've got to go investigate everything there is to know about drug use in the ancient world, right? I've got to find the prostitution, I've got to dig the hole, and I've got to find that reality that lies there beneath the ideas of Scholars. right? that real history, I want to see it, I want to see it.   and so um yeah that's did that did did did this chain of events happening with you getting you getting fired and this investigation by the Catholic Church did that sort of uh set you off in this direction did did this make you want to dive even farther down this rabbit hole and go farther down this path? yeah it did it just reinforced the fact that what I was doing was hitting the right, you know, I was defending the Muse.  so that night of the floating, and the floating into the through the dorm room, and whatnot, what was I doing on that night? you see, I get it from the perspective of a student called me and that student was a roommate, she was the one I hovered over, yeah.  and she said “you know what my roommate said?” I said “what?” she said you um she said “you came floated through the door and did your everything that you did” right? now what did I do that night? I was at home with my children and what was I doing? I was reading an incantation.  an incantation of the incubus.  what is the incubus, Incubus is the ability to project yourself into somebody's vision and to cause them to enter a state of orgasm.  yeah, what was I doing? I was reading those tags.  Yeah.  that's what I was doing, what was she doing? she was hallucinating.  yeah, and now that bacchic energy caused her to spin off.  yeah. and the university couldn't take it, and let her go. I don't know if that was for her good or not now why were you reading that? um because it's an ancient Greek and I have a total obsession with ancient Greek.  and what and you're saying that the fact that she had this incantation or she had this hallucination that was a coincidence that what do you think about that that you were reading this and she had this.. I don't have any ideas I just am telling you the primary sources.  when that thing was happen no I mean the fact that when she claimed this happened to her, that you were reading the incubus, what do you make of that?  I make of it the time that she was envisioning what she was, I was you think some magic happened? are you religious?  are you trying to get me a no I'm just asking you what do you think, do you think some magic was happening, or what, I want to know what you think? yeah I’d, was I opening portals? Maybe I was opening portals. How can I say anything.  Look, the German guy that got caught, the prince told him “I've seen you with my daughter, you're the..” German guy what? who are you talking about? oh some medieval stuff.  German guy, long and story short, some Burgermeister ends up with um in a bad situation his daughter is getting dream raped, by the local Magus. and so he approaches him and he says look instead of putting you in front of the board, um what I'm going to do is I'm going to let you leave but you're going to never do it again in any capacity, you're never going to do this again. the guy said deal. and his daughter stop having the rape dreams. so you were opening a portal? how is that guy, I'm no I'm not saying that.   how is that guy, at least it's not admissible, how is that guy, um making that Association, right? when his daughter dreams, when his daughter dreams is it because that guy is doing it.  who's to blame, when you end up in a public park at 400 a.m. with a naked boy, it's the cult that's all cult technology.   the incubus is cult technology.  Yeah.  what was I doing, I'm just a translator, that's all I do.  I'm just giving you the straight up.  and you know.  I can't admit to doing anything, what did I do that night?  I'm telling you.  I translated, yeah, I translated exactly what she saw.  which is evidence to you that this cult technology is real I don't know is it? what do you think.  how many times is has this ever happened before?  Oh God people send me pictures of what and they say stop they send you pictures and they say stop what do you mean? it's not always positive you know what I mean? yeah I get pictures from people who whose dreams I invade.  how often does this happen? um I've got eight.  yeah. and how eightish, who are these do you know these people are they random people you've never met? no some of them people I've never met and, um, you know, what do you do with that?  is that science? we can't, that's not science bro. seriously. you I'm invading your dream? I love it, don't get me wrong I love it. but if I could do that do you think I would admit to being able to do that? if I could come to you in your dream tonight, and sodomize you would you have a problem with that? yeah yeah it would cause problems wouldn't it? yeah it might damage you right? mhm but this is what the phenomenon that they're looking at that they're considering mhm yeah and that's why they have incantations.  because it turns out it's the images that flip the switch.  the drugs augment the images.  and all you have to do is have the right images to flip the switch, to make it a reality. what are these images they're sending you um it's images of the path that you need to follow to obtain that koric song. what? yeah I know I know, God, it's so ridiculous isn't it? what do they look show me one of these images what do they look? like um they look are you talking about when you say images are you meaning they're sending you photos? Logoi, logoi, they're in the songs they're singing.  so you come to the initiation, you shave your head, you do what's called the scythian thing.  you shave your head, because you're going to mourn. mhm okay you enter into the Scythian mode, and then you go through, you walk through your initiation. mhm and that initiation connects you in a way, that your life becomes new.   Yeah.   right but what I'm asking you is these eight people you said who have sent you images what they sent what did they send you specifically oh!!!! um pictures of themselves, pictures of themselves and pictures of people who report that I've dream raped them and you know stuff like that, and what what do they they say here's a photo have you ever seen this what are they asking you about the images? I don't know sometimes it's sexy, they've gotten some that're sexy, you know? and what does that mean? like oh it was great, thank you very much, well what.  how do you answer that?  what am I supposed to say? you're welcome right? what what can I say? reason! we're scientists! seriously? you want to start the Inquisition again? that's why I'm not going to admit to anything, I'm just going to tell you, what I'm, you know, what are the facts. yeah yeah.  I had a nun watch me take a shower in Nazareth.  you had a nun watch take a shower in Nazareth? yeah that was something, that was something.  yeah the reason I say, that is you know, it's all exhibition with these people, the cult people, you know the Christians as we used to call them.  yeah yeah.  what can I tell you about the drugs that I haven't told you that well I want to know one thing I wanted to ask you about that that we haven't talked about is um lucian's writing on Alexander the false prophet? yes good good, nice. can you talk about that who who is Alexander was Alexander the false prophet a real person or was this just a story? yeah no he's a real person and Lucian is a real person writing about another real person in Kapadotia um up on the Black Sea again they're up on the Black Sea and he started a um um a cult.   an oracular cult.   and he's called the um, Lucian says you know, look “I hate to write to you about bad people” history should be all full of good people right? but just like this other guy he says wrote about this lestes, I'm going to write to you about a lestes that is, like, he's the worst.  he's the worst of these guys. and it turns out um, he's a prostitute.   when he's a boy he's entered into the trade and he becomes, cuz he's known for being very good-looking yeah, he's got a really good look to Him. Alexander the false prophet yeah right right and he travels around he gets the attention of a couple of very wealthy women who set him up making oracles. and he has imported to himself um boys, um Young boys, who are exceptionally handsome and he has a very specific list of what they should and shouldn't look like.  you know, don't take the short ones, take the taller ones, you know don't take the ones that have problems on their skin, take the ones that are smooth. right? that kind of thing. talking about like ancient Eugenics yeah kind of like uh keep your lover um keep your lover uh in the best ideal form. remember the gods are just the ideal, that's why you see a lot of depictions of the Gods. is this you know jacked yeah and and young and young you know what's weird about the about the God the depictions of the Gods and like even the sculpture of like David and Zeus is they were all like these big jacked Warriors but they had small wieners yeah yeah yeah that's what happens when you spend time with queen of the Amazon man Hercules did for a year she made him walk around in a dress you know why? cuz wait wait who made who walk around a dress? oh the queen of the Amazons and if you think the Amazons are a myth, they're not. um we have Athenian graveyards full of the people that they killed. so these are, again, those Waring um roaming tribes around the Black Sea that just plunder they live by plunder.  and by the way the Thracians are big on the Unic trade and making Unics is a big deal and that's why Oddyssius is so what's a Unic when I cut somebody's testicles off.  I turn them into a Unic.  cuz what am I doing? I'm changing the pharmacy. right right? that testosterone is going to change whatever the so when you cut off their balls they have no more testosterone? yeah so and what what's so good about that what's so great about a unic cuz then you can use their semen, right? you can't use it otherwise oooh so it's got to have no it's got to have no sperm in it yeah it's got to have no testosterone that's what they need so they're turning the person into this dispensary they're turning the person into this dispensary of drugs right and a drug Factory essentially yeah a communion, a place of communion. okay yeah wow yeah.  It's intricate Tech I mean so okay Alexander the false prophet he wanted these perfect looking people tall no skin abrasions yeah so he runs a business and it ends up in a bad way one of the kids he thinks is murdered.  and or he has him murdered and it's just, it's not good, it looks bad for him.  and that's the moral lesson that Lucian is trying to teach, um, is what happens when you become profit-driven and you have no, you have no, um you have nothing to stop you, no brakes. and that's this guy Alexander the false prophet.  but, it's important to note that he's a prophet, because that's what prophets are in Antiquity, there are not prophets that are not jacked in.  Prophesying is taking drugs, there's no way around it, it's a part of doing what they said: “going into the Araímon (Ἀραίμων)”.  And what is that Araímon (Ἀραίμων)? it's the Wilderness, you know what I mean? when you're in that, you're in that void?

• Araímon (Ἀραίμων) - associated with a wild, desolate, or deserted place, often linked to the wilderness or a state of void or emptiness
• Uranos (Οὐρανός) - the primordial god of the sky or heavens. He is one of the first beings in the cosmogony of Greek myth, often depicted as the father of the Titans, the Cyclopes, and the Hecatoncheires, whose relationship with Gaia (the Earth) produced these beings

um, okay Mark talks about the void, yeah, where Jesus meets Lucifer, and Converses with Lucifer. you didn't know, yeah, it's in the Bible.  he sees Uranos (Οὐρανός) split. and out of Uranos comes that dove with that milk, and he ends up going into the Araímon where he is tempted, tested, tried, by Lucifer.  yeah yeah, so he's going through it.  Jesus, good for him, he's going through the, he's doing the whole rite, right?  he's really practicing, that Baptist is really practicing, and what a standard issue of every Baptist, according to juvenal, the standard issue is a penis shaped cup.  you can put it, it's called The Witrium Priapium (Βιτρίον Πρίαπος) or the glass priapus.  yeah and every Baptist carries them that's why they take the kids out.  It's the pederasty (παιδεραστία - love of boys) of the ancient Greek religion seeping in.  and that's why Paul is screaming, “you can't do this, that dude is sleeping with his stepmother” right? that's what Paul says.  yeah, Paul's immune to Viper Venom, right? okay yeah he is.  he gets bitten by a Viper and the locals are like, “you're going to die” and he doesn't.  he's got the antidote.  yeah, cuz he's obviously using, right  right? Mithridátēs (Μιθριδάτης - 120 to 63 BCE) was a great king who couldn't be poisoned to death because he was taking this Theriac all the time.  He had constant antidote on board.  right and Marcus Aurelius, when we get down to Marcus Aurelius?  People are saying about him that he's looking better since Galen started him on the Theriac.  he's looking better yeah, like it's doing something, like “whoa, nice Improvement there!”.  and he said Galen says in his Treatise to Piso, remember this is not made up literature these are accounts of Roman medicine.  and in it, he says, yeah it's gonna, this was used after Marcus Aurelius 2, um but they acknowledged it more.  yeah it's good stuff man, he says Cleopatra was in the game too, she couldn't.  So who who was Lucifer?  He's the dawnbringer.  yeah they first called him Lucifera.  and he was a girl you ever see a girl with a big penis?  I mean I saw a girl with a little penis earlier, you showed me a statue of one  that's the Morning Star  What was her name again?  Venus.  No the girl with the Statue with the wiener  Venus. what was her name again?  Yeah.

• Venus (Roman) == Aphrodite (Greek) - same goddess
  • Venus (goddess) is often associated with the morning star (the planet Venus)
  • Lucifera is a latin word meaning "light-bringer" or "morning star," derived from lux (light) and ferre (to bring).  Lucifer refers to the planet Venus when it appears in the morning sky.

got four minutes till 3 yeah okay cool yeah we're we're coming up to the end fantastic. so yeah yeah yeah so tell me more about Lucifer yeah, he's the morning star and he's the one who guards the gate.  they call him,  he's way older than Christianity, right?  or Judaism.  He's way older, he's part of the Saturnian religion.  and what is that?  that's the mystery that revolves around Sun, Moon, and Earth.  it's all constellations and stuff like that.  and all solar stuff.  and yearly festivals, and whatnot.  That's Saturnian. The worship of Cronos.  They call it the Golden Age.  It was before Zeus (Ζεύς) enters, and takes over.  On Olympus right?  it's before he takes over.  So Lucifer comes from that older generation, and he's a dawnbringer, what is everybody's job…  What does that mean? it means you bring Dawn.  ****You Harald bring the new day? you yes, you Harald the dawn.  the dawn is that funny moment when you don't have any sunlight, direct sunlight, and it's kind of a, they talked about it as a spark in The Ether. Spinthēr" (Σπίθῃρ) they call it a spark.  a spark in The Ether.  and that's what you're preserving. when you meet as a Christian, and you get up early in the morning, this is how they originally met, they get up at sunrise, right?  now that's why that, you have the associations of Sunrise with, you know Easter and all that kind of stuff like that.  um they get there early because they're Dawn Bringers right?  Jesus is saying, in the apocalypse, he says I am the Morning Star Jesus says that yes yes and he's got a bra on too a what? a bra a bra yeah yeah.  it's a special device so, what do you make of that why did he say he was the Morning Star? because he has to be, if he's going to be the Christ.  if he's going to be, what, the one in the position, to be elevated as Christ?  he's got to be the morning star.  That's the title, they're all Dawn bringers, okay right?  Christos, is a dawnbringer. mhm right?  Um, so yeah he's got to, he's following - at least the people were writing about them in John's Apocalypse, at least they're making that Association.  yeah, notice that they've got filtra (φίλτρα) too.  The Angels, when an angel pours out a filtra (φίλτρα) right? or filtron (φίλτρον) when they pour it out, that's a drug containing device.

• φίλτρον (filtron) means a filter or sieve in ancient Greek. It refers to a device used to purify or separate substances, such as filtering liquids or other materials.  possibly in the sense of a vessel used for preparation of potions, medicines, or magical substances (such as those used by ancient alchemists or healers).

So, the angels that pour out The Plagues, those are drugs.  The Beast, is called Therion.  How did Lucifer become a bad guy?  How did Lucifer become a bad guy?  Because God's a liar.  Because Zeus? Yeah, Zeus (Ζεύς). What did Zeus do to him? He lied how he closed the eyes of his Awa (Ἀώα) of His what? of his Awa (Ἀώα), his Eve!  In order to make the second Adam (Ἀδὰμ), right? don't you know we're dealing with child sacrifice?  huh yeah child sacrifice, God killing his only son?  oh oh oh yeah yeah right?  in order to elevate him, to what they call the Sōtēr (Σωτήρ) that's the Savior, it's the word we get for savior, right?  That's an old title for Lucifera, the female dawnbringer, that's why he's wearing a bra.  This is hard to a lot of this is really hard to digest  That's what that boy thought probably but What does the word Satan come from?  now people would say You you you always say in your in your videos, or your your, uh documentaries that you make on your YouTube channel, you always say hail Satan right indeed.  but you also claim that you don't worship Satan I don't have a religion.  I'm way too lazy for that.  I don't think you're lazy man hahaha.  no no um yeah, no I don't, no I'm not promoting a religion.  and that's something I tell everybody.  I tell everybody don't, I don't want you to buy my books.  I don't have any reason to condescend.  I don't have anything to set up here and hold up and say “you should buy this”.  um no! what is out there is a lot of Greek texts, and I am a classicist, and my job is to protect those texts, and to get you the Integrity of what's in them.  And what you have read from the Bible that you have read in English, is a mistranslation, it's at best a hack job, at worst it's a purposeful obscuring obfuscation of the actual history, and when you start looking at Jesus who's screaming, you know when he's getting arrested that he's “not a one of these lestes” yeah, then he's uh, you know, you see “the real”.  All of a sudden “the real” becomes obvious, and that's what I think is the job of a classical philologist, is to preserve these texts, and get them to you. So what does hail Satan mean to you?  It's the gadfly.  What's the gadfly again?  It's the punch in somebody's face, it's the oistros (οἶστρος) that you need.

• Oistros (οἶστρος): Estrogen; to sting, to go mad, to rage, frenzy, sexual frenzy, be stung by the gadfly. A driving force or madness, often related to lust or inspiration.

There's a reason you get beaten with whips.  It does something.  Yeah it does something you know, not in a dissad kind of way It shocks you? yeah it brings you, I don't know, it does something chemically to you? right? Causes you to release something in your blood?  you ever get the thirst for the blood? do you know what it's like, to eat? do you think it's possible that you could give me the the address where they do this, but, they eat, they take that freckled redhead kid - and we have texts for this by the way.

• De Ortu Waluuanii - The Origin of Waluuanus - contains a recipe for Media's communion and it is sandwiched in an Arthurian tale.  12th century, Latin.

It's called the De Ortu Waluuanii - and you take this redhaired freckled kid and you pump him full of drugs, and you roast him, slowly, raising his body temperature. and you bleed him, as his body temperature rises. And that blood is communion blood.  That's what you get the taste for.  Now, why he has to be red-haired and freckled? I mean not freckled, red-haired and pimpled!  He's got to have pimples which makes you think, well, you got to use a teenage kid for this or something?  Something about the pimples.  You know it has to do with hormones, because it's right at that time that whatever is going on in his body is producing those, those pimples.  But that's what you got to use.  Where does this come from?  The De Ortu Waluuanii, it's a recipe for Media's communion, and it is sandwiched in an Arthurian tale.  Which is terrible. It's terribly written, it's Latin 12th century Latin, it's awful, it's awful, it's like torture to read it. right What sort of Greek sources does it come from? we don't know oh you don't know no I don't know nobody knows Is this what comes from these modern day conspiracy theories about Hillary Clinton and the Clinton family trying to traffic young kids to drink their blood and to get Adrena Chrome to make them young Bohemian Grove and all this stuff?  yeah, who, I have no idea to be honest.  do you think maybe that culturally influence? yeah I have no idea honestly, I don't.  Do you pay attention to any of that stuff?  Right, I see it, and when I do I laugh, because it's like:  yo look they're talking about cults that yeah you know… I can show you right?  Eustatheus talks about the cult that takes that 9-month-old and delivers it forcefully and then bleeds it, yeah?  Flesh and Blood Man.  How do you think, why do you think Jesus is sitting there “you got to drink my flesh and eat my blood”, right? it's part of the cult.  yeah, I'm glad he wasn't like the Ophites saying “you got to drink my s3m3n” or else, you know, when you went to Catholic church today they would be giving you some rice putting or something, I don't know.  how often are you reading new stuff and new texts? every day, every day you read new stuff? every day. the Corpus Medicorum Graecorum is huge, and it's got a whole bunch of works that nobody reads.  Galen.  I can never finish reading Galen.  I've just, you know, there's no way I'm going to.  I'm just specializing on his drug Works.  I think that's what, I'm, you know, my future is.  He's got lots of good stuff.   But um I'm looking at Nicander.  I'm looking at Nicander and I'm looking at a lot of Eratias of Cappadocia (Ἐρατίας τῆς Καππαδοκίας) these are all pharmacologically oriented.  Nicander is a priest though.  So he gets into the Priestly stuff which is pretty cool. so what does this all mean everything you've learned everything we've talked about today all the drug use and all this cult rituals in the ancient world what what are the uh what would be the implications on the modern world today if we were to be enlightened by this information?  yeah it means our religious background, is rooted in a guy that we venerate, and that guy was somebody who used children sexually, he was involved with drugs, prostitutes, and a mystery that was nothing like going to church today - at least I don't think it is maybe somebody's other, but I don't think it's like that anymore - and the fact is we have built a society based on a lie. On a complete lie, and it's such a hypocritical lie.  Because the very guy that you venerate?  I mean dude, he's arrested in a public park with a n4k3d kid.  Danny, if you and I got arrested in a public park with 12 naked kids what do you think we would be, we sure as hell wouldn't be right here Are you the only one that's are you are are you the only one that's translating this stuff this way?  Are you the no there's other people?  No, I'm just the first one to have guts to do it.  Are there there other uh classicists or linguists who can who who have uh translated these same texts you are and corroborating what you're saying yeah Dr Ruck, for example and that's why I always throw him out as my corroborator.  Dr Ruck will tell you, cuz he and I translated The Apocalypse together, and I showed him my breakdown and outline of it.  And so he can tell you all I'm doing is translating.  I'm not, none of this stuff is made up.  It's just straight up translations, but it's translations coming from somebody who's actually read the medical side, and read the science side, and can talk about what the terms are actually doing.  Until classicists get off their lazy rumps, and stop trying to sell books, they're not going to, they're not going to - classicists infamously hate Bible studies - yeah, I mean they're kind of a joke.  Biblical Scholars are kind of a joke with classicists, and they know that if they get into that paddy, there may be some landmines in there, you know what I mean? Are you ever going to write another book?  Dr Ruck asked me to write another book.  But I think what I'm doing is with Lady Babylon, I'm trying to write the book through a different medium yeah different medium, yeah yeah.  Hopefully.  Lady Babylon is your website and your YouTube channel it's my YouTube channel yeah and I'm not I think Why do you call it Lady Babylon?  Because Lady Babylon is that first Christ, I told you, I love Jesus man.  And Lady Babylon is that first Bronze Age Christ.  That's actually the oldest Greek that we have for Christ goes to to her.  She's that Medwa, that Medea.  She's the one who has that knowledge, that’s such a breakthrough for humans, and brings that Water of Life.  That's… And Lady Babylon, she was Queen of Babylon.  The Lady Babylon is, she's the one who holds up the cup.  And that cup is full of her pornea.  And that's what causes us, that The Beast is able to cause us to enter into that communion.  So if that's the history, because that's what the texts say, you can say “well what does it what does all of it mean”?  It means, that we have texts that say this, and welcome to the museum, that's what's really important is that you see these texts, you see Jesus arrested with a naked boy, I sent a letter to about 45 heads of seminaries and professors asking them about these very passages saying “who is this kid” and “what is this, have you ever seen this medicated bandage?” and “do you know anything about the mystery, the Pagan mystery?” and the universal answer except for from one, one woman was “that's interesting”, is what she said, everybody else you know was negative they're not going to get into this, they're biblical Scholars, can't handle it, first of all.  And second of all, um they don't want to.  Because it's dangerous, man.  What are people going to do, back when this thing was in the… When Pope Gregory came out in one of his homilies, he said this is not, we're going to excuse Mary for having the sex drugs, number one.  And number two, that kid that was with Jesus was his cousin, right? Kissing cousins Something like that, yeah.  Yeah.  But it was an excuse!  It's a way to excuse it, because, the reality of what Jesus was is far harder to Bear, right?  And but, when you go back and read the gospels now, now people, and people have told me this “oh my God other things suddenly make sense”, like why people were telling, were saying, “hey he's touching children stop touching children” right?  All that stuff makes sense now.  Why is Jesus saying “hey if you're a real Christian, you're going to lift up these vipers, and you're going to drink thonesemon, you're going to drink a drug, a death inducer” Jesus says “you will drink death inducer” that's a drug!  And he's saying it, this is what you're going to do. People don't, they read a fairy tale.  I want the real Jesus, I don't want fairy tale Jesus, I want the one that was arrested with a naked kid.  And I want to know that my Society has based its morality on that dude. Hmm wow powerful stuff man where can people pirate your books?  yeah uh you know what I think I'm just going to post my book somewhere, an electronic copy, because I just, my students found it, don't buy my book, just get an electronic copy. If you really are interested.  And most importantly, what I want to draw people to, is I bring these sources out there in lady Babylon and um yeah, it's my final portrait, and um, I hope that, you know, I hope to, that people will be able to appreciate the museum again that people will worship and honor the Muse because that's what our society in our gorgeous democracy, our gorgeous sexy democracy is built on that, and I want to preserve that.   Do you think everyone knowing this stuff and the and basically I mean I if people accepted this truth that you claim, do you think that that would be a benefit to humanity, to know this truth? yeah, just like and for the I assume that practicing religions would collapse right? and cuz who would want to, if you knew that Jesus was a pedo, would you really go right, would you want to be involved?  would you want to give your How think it would benefit our society?  Freedom.  Adamantium Freedom.  Yeah. Nobody is above, no nobody is above the Democracy, nobody is above your reason, nobody is above the mind that you've been given. And that nature is your mom, and the mystery brings you to a place where you know who you are.  That's what it said on the Temple of Apollo, it said “know yourself”. Gnothi Seauton (Γνῶθι σεαυτόν).  Know yourself, right?  So yeah, I think there would be a renaissance, and I would love it.  I would love it.  but you couldn't worship Jesus anymore.  You couldn't take the communion, if you knew what he was doing to that kid,  you couldn't take that communion anymore.  I don't care what the priest pedophiles say, I don't care if they're following that or not, they're following that spirit.  And you know, yeah, needs to be stopped, no? Yeah that's fascinating stuff man well Ammon thank you so much for coming here, and talking about the stuff.  I really appreciate your time.  Danny it's a huge huge honor for me to come here, and I want you to know, I really…  To your audience?  I...  you know, you're a really cool guy, man.  thank you I appreciate it you you as well man.  This is I think what you're doing is, I think what you're doing is, exploration.  And it's like free, it's like University, or you know, Salon grade spirit, that I get here.  And so kudos to you for being able to pull that off in this crap World.  Cheers brother I appreciate your time and good night folks.